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    I was wondering if anyone knew off the top of their head what the NFPA standard is for the amount of hose a pumper is required to carry? I've seen it somewhere before, but I can't seem to find it now.

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    Go to NFPA 1901 Standard for Automotive Fire Apparatus.

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    800' of 2 1/2" or larger
    400' of 1 1/2", 1 3/4", or 2"
    15' of soft suction or 20' of hard suction

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    awesome!

    thanks for the help guys!

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    You may also want to check with ISO I believe they may have a different standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LCFD302
    You may also want to check with ISO I believe they may have a different standard.
    Does ISO do "their thing" in Canada???

    Never mind.....did a search and found out the ISO and IAO have joined forces and are offering their services in Canada!! Read Below:

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    If your using this to help with your City Fire rating them go by what ISO wants to the T... Go to website ISOSLAYER.com for whats needed... Here's what ISO wants for Hose on a pumper...

    800 Supply hose 2 or larger
    If you carry less than 100% of what is needed
    400 Attack hose 2, 2 or 3
    ISO will discount credit for the entire apparatus
    200 Booster or another 1, 1 or 1 preconnect
    400 1 1/2, 1 3/4 or 2 preconnected
    200 Spare 1 1/2, 1 3/4 or 2 hose on rig or in station
    200 Spare 2, 2 1/2 or 3" on rig or in station

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFDTruck5FF
    If your using this to help with your City Fire rating them go by what ISO wants to the T... Go to website ISOSLAYER.com for whats needed... Here's what ISO wants for Hose on a pumper...

    800 Supply hose 2 or larger
    If you carry less than 100% of what is needed
    400 Attack hose 2, 2 or 3
    ISO will discount credit for the entire apparatus
    200 Booster or another 1, 1 or 1 preconnect
    400 1 1/2, 1 3/4 or 2 preconnected
    200 Spare 1 1/2, 1 3/4 or 2 hose on rig or in station
    200 Spare 2, 2 1/2 or 3" on rig or in station

    ok, I jus caught this, but are you saying that ISO wants a 400' 1 3/4" precon?
    Thats an awful lot for that size hose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfpd109
    ok, I jus caught this, but are you saying that ISO wants a 400' 1 3/4" precon?
    Thats an awful lot for that size hose.
    That's actually 400' TOTAL, which can be 2-200' lines.

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    Ok, That makes sence. I was just thinking if they wanted a 400' precon then someone in that office needs to get out a bit. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

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    Yeah lol, 400' would be a little extreme. But as far as your suggestion that they get out of the office a bit before writing these standards (ISO), have you ever seen the full rating schedule and required equipment? I have, we went through the whole thing a few years ago. Some of the stuff they require is pretty ridiculous, I have to say. And the way they actually rate you is sketchy too. We missed a Class 2 rating by less than 2 whole points.

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    Yeah, we had a list around here a while ago (couple years ago). I don't think we'll ever have everything they want. Oh well. We have what we need (or at least we think we do )

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