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    I was wonder what most other departments choose to run first due to an MVA, there engine or rescue. I am talking strictly fire related here, not ambulances. For example you get a call for an MVA with injuries is your rescue out the door first or your engine?
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    We run the rescue first, then an engine.

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    Engine and a rescue are the first alarm for all MVA's with reported injuries, roll overs, vehicles in the water or down an embankment. Engine only for minor accident with fluids on the road/wires down.
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    We Roll our engine first, usually it is all that rolls unless there is enough manpower for the salvage unit. The Engine is set up to be all that is needs, has all rescue supplys on it, jaws(powerhawk), and what not

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    We run engine first, then our squad next.

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    Generally we have our utility (rescue) on the road first, 3 Members on board followed by our Pumper very shortly after with 6 Members..Our Suburban generally runs MVA's to do Traffic Control
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    In my home town, the full time day staffers will run out the medic, and which ever district it's in, they will dispatch an engine staffed by the vollies.
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    Engine and Rescue to all MVA.
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    On MVA, we have 2 rescues that roll first, then engine if staffing permits. Both rescues double as mini-pumpers and are both equiped with full medical and extrication tools.

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    Our tools are on the engine, so that's what we roll. If we did have a rescue, I'd still have the guys roll the engine first, for scene safety issues. No good to have a bunch of tools if you can't use them due to a fire someone didn't report, or a bunch of fuel on the ground that could cause a fire.

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    Whichever.

    1st due Engine is CDL class.

    Rescue isn't.

    Drivers with a CDL or 2Q (CT's non CDL apparatus heavy truck license) take the Engine first since you don't know if another CDL driver will respond.

    If they don't have a CDL, they take the Rescue.

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    We have a rescue pumper so engine first. However, before we got that piece we ran the rescue first for many years. Personally, I want that engine blocking the lane if I have to be out in the road.
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    We run our Rescue Engine first to MVA's if you are talking strictly fire. But first to any MVA is our first out medic unit.
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    We run are engine first to any MVA...even if it is only manned by one person...the idea is to get the big truck in proper position to secure the scene so we have a safe working area.

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    We run our Rescue Engine 1st out and if manpower is available we will run our Medic 2nd out. www.hickorycreekfire.org

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    Combination dept here...each station has at least one f/t career FAE (or CPT) staffing, several stations staff 1-2 FAE + 1 CPT. Vollies may staff if they have time + desire, however POV response from home is "the norm" (flow of traffic--no lights/sirens permitted in CA).

    Standard MVA response is 2 heavies, excepting the "north-central" station, their extrication gear is on their Patrol...and they're the only station in the County set up that way. Everywhere else, extrication is on the Engines (there are no "Rescues" here--we have Engines, Patrols, one Aerial Truck, one Breathing Support, and Utilities--SUVs and pickups with a few hand tools and a BLS bag).

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    We roll our rescue truck first. We figure dispatch doesnt always get the info from the witnesses. I know so Depts. roll there engine first because of haveing fire involved in the wreck!! Hope this helps..Chuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgunter
    We roll our rescue truck first. We figure dispatch doesnt always get the info from the witnesses. I know so Depts. roll there engine first because of haveing fire involved in the wreck!! Hope this helps..Chuck
    SOP for us is first on-scene Engine (or Patrol, on 2+ staffed stations we typically roll 1 on the Engine and 1 on the Patrol instead of 2 on the Engine...or 2 Engines if the station is so equipped) pulls & charges a minimum 1.5" "jump line" (typically the bumper preconnect) for fire protection before taking patient care/extrication actions.

    TAs in the designated "Wildland Response Area" (I-5 from the Kings/Kern line north to the Kings/Fresno line and I-5 west to the Kings/Monterey or Kings/SLO lines) during fire season get a full Wildland response--3 heavies and 4 Patrols until cancelled by the first on-scene unit or a BC.

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