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    Default Commercializing 9/11's Fifth Anniversary

    I don't know. Maybe I'm getting too sensitive in my old age, but it seems to me that there are alot of "commemorative" this and thats FOR SALE to "honor" the fifth anniversary of 9/11.
    And is "anniversary" even the appropriate descriptor of 9/11/2001?
    Example: there is a coin being sold for $30. 9/11 "charities" get 5 bucks of it.
    Now, I know some will say that it's better than nothing.
    I say, the entrepreneur should keep 5 bucks and give $25 to the charities.
    I don't think that there should be profiteering on the backs of those who gave all on that day.
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    $$$$$$$$ off my dead friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E40FDNYL35
    $$$$$$$$ off my dead friends.
    Sad to say. The business of America is business.

    Even if it means the profits are being derived from E40's dead friends.

    Pathetic. I won't be buying any commemorative items.
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    Pretty sad too.

    If you want to give the $5 to a charity, you'd be better off writing a check to them directly and at least you know it got there and to whom it went.

    I am an untrusting soul, so I wouldn't buy anything with that tagline.


    And why do you think that all of these WTC movies adn specials are coming out now. Going to be pretty nauseating having to watch these things 24/7. I am all for remembering, but at some point it becomes too much, and the quality goes downhill as well.
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    Pathetic. I won't be buying any commemorative items.
    Nor will I...however, I'd wager to say that the number one group purchasing such items by the thousands would be members of the firefighting community itself.

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    I won't see the movies or buy anything of that such. The only "commemorative" items I buy of tragedies such as the deaths of our brothers are the t-shirts the guys from their houses sell to benefit the families.
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    The only commemorative shirts or anything I own for Sept 11 is a picture of the WTC captioned"We Shall Overcome" and one of the cross found at Ground Zero with the Firefighter's Prayer on the back.
    Other than that,I won't be buying any commercial commemoratives.I know they'd want to make money but I lean with the guy that says they should give $25 to the widows and orphans and $5 for operating expenses.If they really wanted to do good,couldn't they do with less to give more?

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    I think that if you were there you have more then enough memories. it is sad to make a profit off brothers.
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    All about the money my friends. It is truely sad it came to that.

    The only things in my home that are 9/11 related is the statue from Red Hats of Courage and the memorial us flag with the names on it.
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    At the appropriate time on the appropriate day, I will stand straight, look to the horizon, and say my peace to the memories of the many Warriors.

    Apart from that,no MUTT gets a penny. I don't need a "look at me toy" to feel the pain inside.

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    Making money off of this would be wrong!!!!!
    I agree with taking a ride down to the station of your choice drop off your donations and tell the guys in the house to make sure it finds it's way to a family member..... Maybe a daughter needs a prom dress .... maybe a son wants to rent a limo to take his date to the prom.... maybe a kid needs a new set of tires or a kid going to college needs something for his or her dorm...

    These types of things would be hard to justify to some board of directors over seeing a fund. But the kids would still need things that dad would help with if he were around!!!! I'm for circumventing the red tape and getting $$$ to the grass roots.

    I'm suprised the Red Cross isn't doing another big fund raiser on the backs of the brothers

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    I don't know about you guys, but I tell my family and friends to please not purchase these items as gifts for me, too. I have a couple of shirts given to me by well-meaning family members, but I never wear them. You can if you like, but I can't shake the sense of cheapness that seems to be attributed to something by making a t-shirt for it. I also feel weird about so much honor being attributed to some LODD's, while many others across the nation are never given this sort of attention. I understand the impact of what happened at the World Trade Center, but I feel all true line-of-duty deaths are just as important as any one firefighter that fell on 9/11/01, regardless of where or when they happen. It is entirely possible to honor the fallen appropriately without making a buck, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleman
    I don't know about you guys, but I tell my family and friends to please not purchase these items as gifts for me, too. I have a couple of shirts given to me by well-meaning family members, but I never wear them. You can if you like, but I can't shake the sense of cheapness that seems to be attributed to something by making a t-shirt for it. I also feel weird about so much honor being attributed to some LODD's, while many others across the nation are never given this sort of attention. I understand the impact of what happened at the World Trade Center, but I feel all true line-of-duty deaths are just as important as any one firefighter that fell on 9/11/01, regardless of where or when they happen. It is entirely possible to honor the fallen appropriately without making a buck, in my opinion.
    Lodd shirts, atleast around here, are created to help the family, usually. Any profits will go to the family, or to set up a scholarship fund for a kid who just lost his father. I for one think its a shame that more Depts and communities dont take the initiative and honor the family of the fallen.
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    9-11 cookies!

    I've seen the TV commercial for the Twin Towers silver commemorative coins. $25/$5 is no bargain. I wonder who in the hell gave them the rights to the silver from the WTC!!!

    From the National Collector's Mint, edited, of course:

    "The World Trade Center skyline is lavishly clad in gleaming silver miraculously recovered from a bank vault found under tons of debris [and bodies] at Ground Zero. To mark the fifth anniversary, $5 [ ] of every 2001-2006 World Trade Center Commemorative order is donated to official 9/11 family charities and memorials. The stunning design of this magnificent September 11th memorial is a 15 mg. of 24 KT gold and 15 mg. of .999 Pure silver clad tribute to all who were lost on that fateful day."

    The original text is on their Web page:

    Nat'l Collectors mint

    I guess if I ever go to a crash scene involving a Wells Fargo armored car that flips off of a bridge and spills valuables and cash all over a ravine, I can say "Finders Keepers!" and make off with the goods.

    As for the movies, I guess I can't say no to one and yes to the other. I said earlier that I would see World Trade Center, now I have decided I'll let it pass (and keep with tradition, since I haven't been to the theaters since . . . ).

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    It absolutly disgusts me to think that a bunch of people every year sit around a table and try to figure out another way to make money from another persons loss......

    The only shirts or items I have ever purchased have been directly from the fire house of one of our fallen brothers, at least then i know the money is being directed straigth to the families......

    At the end of the day people who try to gain profit off something that caused so much pain and suffering to so many are just 3 words .....

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    The only place I'll purchase anything from is from the NY Firestore since they do donate quite a bit of money to various organizations to include the UFA Widows & Children's Fund.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnytheTurk
    The only shirts or items I have ever purchased have been directly from the fire house of one of our fallen brothers, at least then i know the money is being directed straigth to the families......
    Amen to that. Exactly my point. It is the only time you know for sure that the money will be delivered to those it is intended for.
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    Making a mint off 9/11 -- The hucksters who two years ago tried to peddle the fraudulent Freedom Tower Silver Dollar are back with an even more offensive scheme for trading on the memory of 9/11 for money.
    They go by the name of the National Collector's Mint of Port Chester, N.Y., and they're marketing a monstrosity called the 2001-2006 World Trade Center Commemorative over the Web and on late-night cable TV. You've got to see it to believe it. The thingamajig consists of a gold-colored coin with a silver-colored inlay in the shape of the twin towers, "gleaming ... much as they shimmered in the sunlight that fateful September morning." Stand the inlay up, and you have your own World Trade Center! Made of "15 mg. of 24-kt gold and 15 mg. of .999 pure silver" - the silver "miraculously recovered from a bank vault found under tons of debris at Ground Zero" - the medallion sells for $29.95. Of that, the mint promises to donate $5 to "official 9/11 family charities and memorials." The company can easily afford to be so cynically charitable. The Journal News newspaper had the precious metals analyzed and discovered they were worth about 32 cents. Last time, in 2004, the National Collector's Mint advertised its Freedom Tower medallion as legal tender from the Northern Mariana Islands. Turned out that the Marianas don't mint currency, they use U.S. greenbacks. And the supposedly pure silver in the coin - the same miraculously recovered silver - was hair-thin and worth about 1.4 cents. State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer's office sued, and a judge fined the company $370,000. Spitzer's investigation was unable to confirm whence the silver came. As for the charities referred to in the mint's new ads, a press statement identifies them as Tuesday's Children, the World Trade Center United Family Group, the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation and the Families of Flight 93 National Memorial, worthy causes all. Two of them, Tuesday's Children and the WTC family group, said yesterday that the mint had recently sent donations. They wrestled with what to do with money from such a distasteful source. Our advice for people who find themselves attracted by the ads for this cheesy, near-worthless trinket: Turn away and send $5 directly to one of the charities. You'll do good and save money, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefReason
    ....is "anniversary" even the appropriate descriptor of 9/11/2001?
    We need to find a new word Chief....and have it added to the Webster's.

    Suggestions?

    Memoversary? Eventersary? Tragicersary?
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