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    "This is my wife and with her legs in the air like that, she's in the PRIME mating positiong." *motions viewer closer with hand* "I'm gonna grab 'er by the tail."

    That is just TOO funny!!

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    By DENNIS PASSA
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    BEERWAH, Australia (AP) - Steve Irwin pulled a poisonous
    stingray barb from his chest in his dying moments, his longtime
    manager said Tuesday, after watching videotape of the attack that
    killed the popular "Crocodile Hunter."
    Irwin's body was returned home to Beerwah, a hamlet in
    southeastern Queensland on the fringe of the Outback where he lived
    with his wife and two young children. Irwin turned a modest reptile
    park opened by his parents into Australia Zoo, a wildlife reserve
    that has become an international tourist attraction.
    Terri Irwin, in her first public comment since her husband's
    death, thanked the staff of his zoo in a brief message late
    Tuesday, said spokesman Michael Hornby.
    "She was very choked up. It was a very frail comment," Hornby
    told The Associated Press Wednesday. "But she wanted to say to the
    staff how grateful she was for their support and how much it meant
    to her." Details weren't made public.
    Irwin's father, Bob, thanked his son's fans Wednesday for their
    messages of support and said his son died doing what he loved.
    "There were many things that could have gone wrong," Irwin
    said in a news conference that was broadcast live across Australia.
    "Steve knew the risks (of what) he was doing, and he wouldn't have
    wanted it any other way."
    Hundreds placed bouquets and handwritten notes at an ad hoc
    shrine to the popular 44-year-old naturalist outside the park, and
    other tributes flowed in from Canberra to Hollywood.
    The dramatic details of Irwin's death Monday as he was shooting
    a program on the Great Barrier Reef were disclosed by John
    Stainton, his manager and close friend. He said he had viewed the
    videotape showing the TV star pulling the poisonous stingray barb
    from his chest.
    "It shows that Steve came over the top of the ray and the tail
    came up, and spiked him here (in the chest), and he pulled it out,
    and the next minute he's gone," Stainton told reporters in Cairns,
    the nearest city to tiny Batt Reef off Australia's far northeast
    coast where the accident happened.
    Stainton said the video was "shocking."
    "It's a very hard thing to watch, because you are actually
    witnessing somebody die, and it's terrible," he said.
    The tape was not released to the public. Queensland state police
    took possession of a copy for a coroner's investigation.
    Stainton said the tape should be destroyed when the coroner is
    finished.
    "I would never want that tape shown. I mean, it should be
    destroyed," he said on CNN's "Larry King Live."
    Stainton estimated Irwin's distance from the stingray when the
    attack happened at about three feet.
    State police Superintendent Michael Keating said Irwin was
    "interacting" with the stingray when it flicked its tail and
    speared his chest with the bone-hard serrated spine it bore - the
    normally placid animal's main defense mechanism.
    "There is no evidence Mr. Irwin was threatening or intimidating
    the stingray," Keating said, addressing speculation that a man who
    became famous by leaping on crocodiles and snatching up snakes must
    have been too close for the animal's comfort.
    Irwin's boundless energy and daredevil antics around deadly
    beasts made him a household name as the Discovery Channel's "The
    Crocodile Hunter," with a reported audience of more than 200
    million.
    Australia's leaders interrupted Parliament's normal business to
    eulogize Irwin.
    "He was a genuine, one-off, remarkable Australian individual
    and I am distressed at his death," Prime Minister John Howard
    said.
    His opposition counterpart, Kim Beazley, said: "He was not only
    a great Aussie bloke, he was determined to instill his passion for
    the environment and its inhabitants in everybody he met."
    Friend and Oscar-winner Russell Crowe said from New York: "He
    was and remains the ultimate wildlife warrior."
    The U.S. Embassy issued a statement saying Irwin was an
    unofficial Australian ambassador to the United States.
    "With his humor and irrepressible sense of adventure, he
    represented those things our citizens find most appealing about
    Australia and its wonderful way of life," it said.
    Hundreds of people journeyed Tuesday to Australia Zoo to
    remember Irwin.
    Tia Koivisto drove her daughter Ella, 3, for more than an hour
    from the Queensland capital of Brisbane to lay a floral tribute.
    "I was quite moved by what happened, I felt I had to come up
    and pay my respects," Koivisto said.
    People thronged around the entrance of the park, near a
    billboard featuring Irwin holding a crocodile in his arms and his
    catch phrase, "Crikey!"
    "We're all devastated," said Gail Gipp, the park's hospital
    wildlife manager. "It is very surreal at the moment. We're
    determined to carry on what he would have wanted."
    There was no condolence book, but mourners lined up to sign
    messages onto khaki work shirts - another Irwin trademark - that
    were draped outside the gate. Someone placed flowers in the mouth
    of a wooden crocodile nearby.
    "Mate, you made the world a better place," read one poster
    left at the gate. "Steve, our hero, our legend, our wildlife
    warrior," read another.
    "I thought you were immortal. How I wish that was true," said
    a third.
    Zoo spokesman Peter Lang said Irwin's wife, Terri, of Eugene,
    Ore., daughter Bindi, 8, and son Bob, 2, arrived Monday night from
    the island state of Tasmania, where they had been vacationing when
    Irwin was killed.
    The prime minister offered a state funeral for Irwin if it was
    what the family wished. Bob Irwin said his son would not have
    wanted such a fuss, but he would leave the decision up to Terri.
    "We'll never replace Steve," said Hornby, head of the Wildlife
    Warriors, one of the Irwin family's conservation charities. "He
    was part of the family, like he came out of the television set and
    into your living room. That's why there's been such an outpouring
    of emotion here and around the world. Everybody thought they knew
    him."
    Meanwhile, Animal Planet said it had given no thought to taking
    "The Crocodile Hunter" off the air, said Maureen Smith, the
    network's executive vice president and general manager.
    "Steve's whole mission in life was to educate and inspire the
    public to take care of animals in the world that we share," she
    said. "To continue is the best way to get that message out."
    Irwin was filming a new series, "Ocean's Deadliest Predators,"
    for Animal Planet. Smith said she wasn't aware whether enough
    filming had been done for anything to make it on the air.

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    Question Will the tape survive....and wind up on the internet?

    By JOCELYN NOVECK
    AP National Writer
    NEW YORK (AP) - "If I'm going to die," the late "Crocodile
    Hunter" Steve Irwin said in a 2002 interview, "at least I want it
    filmed."
    He spoke with his usual humor, and clearly had no idea what
    would happen four years later. But the fact is, a tape does exist
    of Irwin's fatal encounter with a stingray while filming a TV show.
    And so the question arises: In the age of instant Web videos, might
    it get out? And in the broader sense, is making footage of a death
    public ever justified?
    For its part, Discovery Communications, the network where Irwin
    became a star, said there was absolutely no truth to rumors that
    the footage, now in possession of police in Queensland, Australia,
    might be released.
    But that doesn't mean there aren't concerns that someone could
    attempt to get their hands on it and publicize it for lurid means -
    or just to show they had it. That, said media analyst Martin
    Kaplan, would be tantamount to a snuff film.
    "The only remote justification for publicizing this would be
    accident prevention," said Kaplan, of the Annenberg School for
    Communication at the University of Southern California. "But that
    argument is a stretch." Experts say deaths from a stingray
    encounter are exceedingly rare.
    Irwin died Monday at age 44 after being stabbed in the chest by
    the stingray's poisonous spine while filming on the Great Barrier
    Reef.
    He was hugely popular in the United States, becoming a star as
    the "Crocodile Hunter" on Discovery's Animal Planet channel. In
    an interview with Associated Press Radio in 2002, he discussed his
    passion for grappling with crocodiles: "That's what my hand and my
    brains are designed to do," he said with his trademark enthusiasm.
    "That's what I have to give to the world."
    In the same interview, he noted: "If I'm going to die, at least
    I want it filmed ... If we blew a million dollars worth of cameras,
    at least we could have gone to MGM and gone, 'Hey, look at this
    tape."'
    Irwin's manager and close friend, John Stainton, had the painful
    experience of watching the videotape where Irwin pulls the stingray
    barb from his chest. He called it "shocking."
    "It's a very hard thing to watch, because you are actually
    witnessing somebody die, and it's terrible," he told reporters.
    Stainton later said on CNN's "Larry King Live" that he would
    never want the tape shown publicly.
    "I mean, it should be destroyed," Stainton told King on
    Tuesday evening. Noting the tape now is evidence in a coroner's
    inquest, Stainton said, "When that is finally released, it will
    never see the light of day. Ever. Ever. I actually saw it, but I
    don't want to see it again."
    The fact that a tape exists recalls the death of Timothy
    Treadwell, a bear enthusiast who lived among them for a dozen years
    in Alaska before being fatally mauled in 2003. A video camera with
    the lens cap on captured the audio of that attack. It is in
    possession of a friend and has never emerged in public - though in
    his acclaimed documentary "Grizzly Man," director Werner Herzog
    was seen listening to it with headphones on.
    Samuel G. Freedman, who teaches a media ethics class at the
    Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, says the issue
    is "whether there is any compelling public interest" in the
    release of something so shocking as footage of a death. Here, he
    says, there clearly isn't.
    "The lay person is not going into the water trying to have
    encounters with stingrays," Freedman said. "It would be purely
    titillation and necrophilia if anyone were to show this."
    There are dramatically different cases, Freedman believes, where
    there is a compelling public interest in having the option - as in
    the voluntary click of a mouse - to see the reality of a grisly
    death. To learn the harsh lessons of war, for example, or to
    witness the brutality of the beheadings by Islamic militants in
    Iraq - videos that were posted on Web sites used by the militants.
    (Others have argued that the existence of the militant videos is
    apalling.)
    But those are very particular cases. In general, the
    explanations fall flat, says Kaplan of the Annenberg School, as
    when the Italian magazine that recently published a photo of
    Princess Diana getting oxygen moments after her fatal car crash
    called it "tender" and "touching."
    In an era where almost everything ends up making it to the Web,
    is it inevitable that such a tape as that of Irwin's death would
    emerge?
    "Only in the sense that there's a race for the bottom in our
    culture," Kaplan says. "This will take substantial vigilance on
    the part of the family."

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    Exclamation Stupid is as stupid does!

    In the words of Red Foreman, "Dumb*****."

    He bugged anyway. Hopefully, his offspring is a little sharper.... Carlos Mencia and Bill Engvall were right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    In the words of Red Foreman, "Dumb*****."

    He bugged anyway. Hopefully, his offspring is a little sharper.... Carlos Mencia and Bill Engvall were right.


    So I guess in your mind if a FF or a cop dies they are dumb*****es ?
    Thats what your saying essentialy. That if you have a dangerous job then you deserve to die .

    Guess I am a double dumb***** then being a LEO and a V.F.F. huh.
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    Post Not trying to make anybody mad here.

    No that's not it. I see the need in rescuing people. Unfortunately, FF's and cops die everyday doing that.

    However, I don't see the need in provoking dangerous animals on TV for MONEY! There has been plenty of coverage on TV about dangerous animals that didn't require anybody poking and prodding them to get the point across that they were dangerous. I see a cougar on TV take down a full grown deer and that's all it takes for me to understand that critter demands respect.

    I don't need Irwin to tell me that a rattler is dangerous! My Dad taught me that and he didn't hold me up over any crocodiles either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    No that's not it. I see the need in rescuing people. Unfortunately, FF's and cops die everyday doing that.

    However, I don't see the need in provoking dangerous animals on TV for MONEY! There has been plenty of coverage on TV about dangerous animals that didn't require anybody poking and prodding them to get the point across that they were dangerous. I see a cougar on TV take down a full grown deer and that's all it takes for me to understand that critter demands respect.

    I don't need Irwin to tell me that a rattler is dangerous! My Dad taught me that and he didn't hold me up over any crocodiles either.
    Open your mind. This guy has taught kids of all ages for many years more than anyone has ever taught them about this subject. He has done more for wildlife than anyone else in the world, EVER. All the charities along with his park.

    These crocs weren't just crocs for money, he actually cared about them. There are tons of videos out there of him crying when one of his favorite crocs died (Mary).

    Not to mention his personalty, he loved doing his job and was always so happy about it everywhere he went.

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    There were doctors on TV last night saying that if he had left the barb in and had it surgically removed, he may have lived. They said that removing it was like removing a plug and allowed him to bleed out. Human instinct has us doing some funny things and not all good.

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    Funny thing these forums, especially some of the replies regarding Mr. Irwin. The one that really stand out are: "he got what he deserves", stupid is what stupid does", etc. The band wagon calling him an idiot.
    Well for your information, running into a burning building, as judged by most sane people, is just as stupid. But everybody likes to have the title; "bravest" or "hero". Wear their t-shirts to the bar, have huge FF stickers on their car.. but be damned, one of us gets killed and it's a tragedy, condolances and sorrow pour in from around the web.
    I would be willing to bet that this man was as well trained and skilled in his job working with dangerous animals as any of those firefighters killed in the line of duty. Am I calling any of them stupid? Hell no. Is it fair to make such a statement, absolutely. Especially when you add in all those killed in apperatus accidents, getting run over by their apperatus, falling of the darn thing, killing themselves racing to the station in their POV, or worse riding a bike to the station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    In the words of Red Foreman, "Dumb*****."

    He bugged anyway. Hopefully, his offspring is a little sharper.... Carlos Mencia and Bill Engvall were right.

    Well, its refreshing to see America putting so much in to what Carlos Mencia has to say.
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    By DENNIS PASSA
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    BEERWAH, Australia (AP) - "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin,
    killed in a stingray attack this week, knew the risks involved in
    his work and often discussed the possibility he might die doing it,

    his father said Wednesday.
    The 44-year-old star was being filmed for a new TV program as he
    swam with a stingray on the Great Barrier Reef Monday when it
    lashed out with its tail, plunging a poisonous barb into his chest.
    He died within minutes.
    In the first public comments by Irwin's family since the
    tragedy, the elder Irwin, who started the wildlife park that his
    son turned into a major tourist attraction, said Wednesday both
    were aware of the inherent dangers of their occupation.
    "Both of us over the years have had some very close shaves and
    we both approached it the same way, we made jokes about it," he
    said. "That's not to say we were careless. But we treated it as
    part of the job. Nothing to worry about really."
    Thousands of fans have flocked to Irwin's Australia Zoo wildlife
    park in Queensland state, creating a shrine of flowers, candles and
    written tributes. Stuffed animals poke out from between flags of
    Australia, the United States and England, and some visitors signed
    and left khaki shirts similar to those worn by Irwin in lieu of a
    condolences book.
    Bob Irwin, 66, thanked fans for their messages of support and
    reassured them his son had died doing what he loved.
    A private funeral will be held at an undisclosed location within
    seven days, and a public memorial service will be held within two
    weeks, Bob Irwin said Thursday.
    Queensland Premier Peter Beattie had offered a state funeral,
    and Prime Minister John Howard said that would be appropriate,
    calling Irwin a great ambassador for Australia. But Bob Irwin said
    Wednesday it wouldn't be what Steve wanted.
    "He's an ordinary guy, and he wants to be remembered as an
    ordinary bloke," he said.
    Michael Hornby, the head of one of Irwin's wildlife charities,
    Wildlife Warriors, said the star's wife, Terri Irwin, was thinking
    about having a small, private ceremony at an Outback location and
    approving a separate large event at a stadium in the state capital,
    Brisbane.
    Hornby also urged people to be careful in sending donations to
    Irwin's charities as a tribute, saying two or three bogus Web sites
    had been set up attempting to divert some of the money.
    Separately, Irwin's manager and close friend John Stainton said
    the videotape showing him being fatally stabbed should never be
    publicly aired.
    "It should be destroyed," Stainton told CNN's "Larry King
    Live." He said he has seen the footage and it shows Irwin pulling
    the barb from his chest in his last moments.
    The tape is in the possession of police as evidence for the
    coroner.
    The Discovery Channel, which produced and aired Irwin's programs
    to a reported global audience of more than 200 million, said it
    will not show the footage.
    Police have said there are no suspicious circumstances in
    Irwin's death, and no decision has been made about whether a
    coroner will hold a formal inquest or simply accept the police
    findings. No formal cause of death has been announced.
    Terri Irwin briefly addressed park staff late Tuesday over a
    public address system.
    "She was very choked up. It was a very frail comment," Hornby
    told The Associated Press Wednesday. "But she wanted toa month with his son's
    family on Cape York in tropical northern Australia doing crocodile
    research.
    "Steve was probably the best I had seen him in many years, in
    his own personal attitude," he said. "He was peaceful. He was not
    under stress. And he was doing something that he really loved
    doing. I won't ever forget that three or four weeks."

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    However, I don't see the need in provoking dangerous animals on TV for MONEY!
    He died a relatively poor man. All of his money went into buying land for conservation and other such projects. His personal yacht was seldom used by his family because it spent most of its time being lent out for free to universities and marine biologists.
    He was a bit of a tosser but he did some good stuff. What upset me about him is that he stopped catching the giant crocs that he used to. In his early documentaries he used to catch some of the largest crocs in the world with just himself, his dad, a few zookeepers, a potato sack and a bit of rope. Back when he actually was the crocodile hunter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdeng3
    There were doctors on TV last night saying that if he had left the barb in and had it surgically removed, he may have lived. They said that removing it was like removing a plug and allowed him to bleed out. Human instinct has us doing some funny things and not all good.
    Not just instinct but movies and TV as well.Ever see "The Outlaw Josey Wales" where he's advising"If you get hit,slap hot iron on it to stop the bleeding"?
    Or one of the opening scenes to "Terminator 2",where the biker that got stuck with his own knife wants it pulled out?
    If those were useful first aid techniques,wouldn't we be learning them in EMT classes?
    I don't want to start on what I've seen in some TV shows,because I know those have to dramatize things but there's some folks that get the idea that everything you see in them is accurately portrayed.

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    I don't care how many times I've been taught to leave an impaled object in... If there was some big thing sticking out of my chest, I'm sure it would hurt like hell, and I'm sure I'd want more than anything to pull the damned thing out. Not a time when I'd be thinking at my clearest, I'm sure. That's when you need people with you who will think for you, grab you and restrain you for your own good, and get you to the hospital where the thing can be surgically removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    In the words of Red Foreman, "Dumb*****."

    He bugged anyway. Hopefully, his offspring is a little sharper.... Carlos Mencia and Bill Engvall were right.

    Your level of compassion is overwhelming...do you display the same amount of tact on calls when a fatality is involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingKiwi
    I couldn't kill this one but damn, I nailed the thread about Steve Irwin being Killed.

    I killed a killer thread. Is that a double homicide?
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    Look at your SIGNATURE.

    Then have a look at what this thread is about. HALLLLOOOOOOOO.

    See anything here?

    That's when you need people with you who will think for you, grab you and restrain you for your own good, and get you to the hospital where the thing can be surgically removed
    That is EXACTLY what happened with my first wife.
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