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    Post Not trying to make anybody mad here.

    No that's not it. I see the need in rescuing people. Unfortunately, FF's and cops die everyday doing that.

    However, I don't see the need in provoking dangerous animals on TV for MONEY! There has been plenty of coverage on TV about dangerous animals that didn't require anybody poking and prodding them to get the point across that they were dangerous. I see a cougar on TV take down a full grown deer and that's all it takes for me to understand that critter demands respect.

    I don't need Irwin to tell me that a rattler is dangerous! My Dad taught me that and he didn't hold me up over any crocodiles either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    No that's not it. I see the need in rescuing people. Unfortunately, FF's and cops die everyday doing that.

    However, I don't see the need in provoking dangerous animals on TV for MONEY! There has been plenty of coverage on TV about dangerous animals that didn't require anybody poking and prodding them to get the point across that they were dangerous. I see a cougar on TV take down a full grown deer and that's all it takes for me to understand that critter demands respect.

    I don't need Irwin to tell me that a rattler is dangerous! My Dad taught me that and he didn't hold me up over any crocodiles either.
    Open your mind. This guy has taught kids of all ages for many years more than anyone has ever taught them about this subject. He has done more for wildlife than anyone else in the world, EVER. All the charities along with his park.

    These crocs weren't just crocs for money, he actually cared about them. There are tons of videos out there of him crying when one of his favorite crocs died (Mary).

    Not to mention his personalty, he loved doing his job and was always so happy about it everywhere he went.

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    There were doctors on TV last night saying that if he had left the barb in and had it surgically removed, he may have lived. They said that removing it was like removing a plug and allowed him to bleed out. Human instinct has us doing some funny things and not all good.

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    Funny thing these forums, especially some of the replies regarding Mr. Irwin. The one that really stand out are: "he got what he deserves", stupid is what stupid does", etc. The band wagon calling him an idiot.
    Well for your information, running into a burning building, as judged by most sane people, is just as stupid. But everybody likes to have the title; "bravest" or "hero". Wear their t-shirts to the bar, have huge FF stickers on their car.. but be damned, one of us gets killed and it's a tragedy, condolances and sorrow pour in from around the web.
    I would be willing to bet that this man was as well trained and skilled in his job working with dangerous animals as any of those firefighters killed in the line of duty. Am I calling any of them stupid? Hell no. Is it fair to make such a statement, absolutely. Especially when you add in all those killed in apperatus accidents, getting run over by their apperatus, falling of the darn thing, killing themselves racing to the station in their POV, or worse riding a bike to the station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    In the words of Red Foreman, "Dumb*****."

    He bugged anyway. Hopefully, his offspring is a little sharper.... Carlos Mencia and Bill Engvall were right.

    Well, its refreshing to see America putting so much in to what Carlos Mencia has to say.
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    BEERWAH, Australia (AP) - "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin,
    killed in a stingray attack this week, knew the risks involved in
    his work and often discussed the possibility he might die doing it,

    his father said Wednesday.
    The 44-year-old star was being filmed for a new TV program as he
    swam with a stingray on the Great Barrier Reef Monday when it
    lashed out with its tail, plunging a poisonous barb into his chest.
    He died within minutes.
    In the first public comments by Irwin's family since the
    tragedy, the elder Irwin, who started the wildlife park that his
    son turned into a major tourist attraction, said Wednesday both
    were aware of the inherent dangers of their occupation.
    "Both of us over the years have had some very close shaves and
    we both approached it the same way, we made jokes about it," he
    said. "That's not to say we were careless. But we treated it as
    part of the job. Nothing to worry about really."
    Thousands of fans have flocked to Irwin's Australia Zoo wildlife
    park in Queensland state, creating a shrine of flowers, candles and
    written tributes. Stuffed animals poke out from between flags of
    Australia, the United States and England, and some visitors signed
    and left khaki shirts similar to those worn by Irwin in lieu of a
    condolences book.
    Bob Irwin, 66, thanked fans for their messages of support and
    reassured them his son had died doing what he loved.
    A private funeral will be held at an undisclosed location within
    seven days, and a public memorial service will be held within two
    weeks, Bob Irwin said Thursday.
    Queensland Premier Peter Beattie had offered a state funeral,
    and Prime Minister John Howard said that would be appropriate,
    calling Irwin a great ambassador for Australia. But Bob Irwin said
    Wednesday it wouldn't be what Steve wanted.
    "He's an ordinary guy, and he wants to be remembered as an
    ordinary bloke," he said.
    Michael Hornby, the head of one of Irwin's wildlife charities,
    Wildlife Warriors, said the star's wife, Terri Irwin, was thinking
    about having a small, private ceremony at an Outback location and
    approving a separate large event at a stadium in the state capital,
    Brisbane.
    Hornby also urged people to be careful in sending donations to
    Irwin's charities as a tribute, saying two or three bogus Web sites
    had been set up attempting to divert some of the money.
    Separately, Irwin's manager and close friend John Stainton said
    the videotape showing him being fatally stabbed should never be
    publicly aired.
    "It should be destroyed," Stainton told CNN's "Larry King
    Live." He said he has seen the footage and it shows Irwin pulling
    the barb from his chest in his last moments.
    The tape is in the possession of police as evidence for the
    coroner.
    The Discovery Channel, which produced and aired Irwin's programs
    to a reported global audience of more than 200 million, said it
    will not show the footage.
    Police have said there are no suspicious circumstances in
    Irwin's death, and no decision has been made about whether a
    coroner will hold a formal inquest or simply accept the police
    findings. No formal cause of death has been announced.
    Terri Irwin briefly addressed park staff late Tuesday over a
    public address system.
    "She was very choked up. It was a very frail comment," Hornby
    told The Associated Press Wednesday. "But she wanted toa month with his son's
    family on Cape York in tropical northern Australia doing crocodile
    research.
    "Steve was probably the best I had seen him in many years, in
    his own personal attitude," he said. "He was peaceful. He was not
    under stress. And he was doing something that he really loved
    doing. I won't ever forget that three or four weeks."

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    However, I don't see the need in provoking dangerous animals on TV for MONEY!
    He died a relatively poor man. All of his money went into buying land for conservation and other such projects. His personal yacht was seldom used by his family because it spent most of its time being lent out for free to universities and marine biologists.
    He was a bit of a tosser but he did some good stuff. What upset me about him is that he stopped catching the giant crocs that he used to. In his early documentaries he used to catch some of the largest crocs in the world with just himself, his dad, a few zookeepers, a potato sack and a bit of rope. Back when he actually was the crocodile hunter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cfdeng3
    There were doctors on TV last night saying that if he had left the barb in and had it surgically removed, he may have lived. They said that removing it was like removing a plug and allowed him to bleed out. Human instinct has us doing some funny things and not all good.
    Not just instinct but movies and TV as well.Ever see "The Outlaw Josey Wales" where he's advising"If you get hit,slap hot iron on it to stop the bleeding"?
    Or one of the opening scenes to "Terminator 2",where the biker that got stuck with his own knife wants it pulled out?
    If those were useful first aid techniques,wouldn't we be learning them in EMT classes?
    I don't want to start on what I've seen in some TV shows,because I know those have to dramatize things but there's some folks that get the idea that everything you see in them is accurately portrayed.

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    I don't care how many times I've been taught to leave an impaled object in... If there was some big thing sticking out of my chest, I'm sure it would hurt like hell, and I'm sure I'd want more than anything to pull the damned thing out. Not a time when I'd be thinking at my clearest, I'm sure. That's when you need people with you who will think for you, grab you and restrain you for your own good, and get you to the hospital where the thing can be surgically removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2BKE
    In the words of Red Foreman, "Dumb*****."

    He bugged anyway. Hopefully, his offspring is a little sharper.... Carlos Mencia and Bill Engvall were right.

    Your level of compassion is overwhelming...do you display the same amount of tact on calls when a fatality is involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingKiwi
    I couldn't kill this one but damn, I nailed the thread about Steve Irwin being Killed.

    I killed a killer thread. Is that a double homicide?
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    Look at your SIGNATURE.

    Then have a look at what this thread is about. HALLLLOOOOOOOO.

    See anything here?

    That's when you need people with you who will think for you, grab you and restrain you for your own good, and get you to the hospital where the thing can be surgically removed
    That is EXACTLY what happened with my first wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingKiwi

    "That's when you need people with you who will think for you, grab you and restrain you for your own good, and get you to the hospital where the thing can be surgically removed"

    That is EXACTLY what happened with my first wife.

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    Anyone else catch the Memorial Service on the Animal Planet tonight? It is truly amazing how one man, with one great passion, can influence the ENTIRE world. Hopefully people will be able to see what he was able to do during his short life with his warm personality, excitement, and enthusiasm. I wish more people would devote their entire lives to their passions, just like Steve. What an outstanding individual. Rest In Peace mate.
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    Oh I hav to agreed wid dat.

    See here for Greedpeaces take on the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingKiwi
    Oh I hav to agreed wid dat.

    See here for Greedpeaces take on the issue.

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    A little off topic, but is that news site real? or just for fun?
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    RIP Steve Irwin and may god be with your family. What a tragic loss for us all.

    The amout of disrespect shown in this thread makes me sick. Shame on those of you who choose to make light of Steves death.

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    Lighthouse Point man stabbed in chest by stingray
    LIGHTHOUSE POINT, Fla. (AP) - A man was in critical condition
    Thursday morning, a day after a stingray jumped onto his boat and
    stabbed him in the chest, leaving a foot-long barb stuck in him,
    authorities said.
    James Bertakis, 81, of Lighthouse Point, was boating with his
    grown granddaughter and her friend Wednesday afternoon when the
    rare attack occurred. The woman were able to steer the boat back to
    Bertakis' home where they called authorities.
    "It was a freak accident," said Lighthouse Point acting fire
    Chief David Donzella. "It's very odd that the thing jumped out of
    the water and stung him. We still can't believe it."
    Bertakis was conscious when paramedics arrived. Surgeons were
    able to remove some of the barb, but were not able to locate the
    rest and feared it may have migrated. Bertakis suffered a closed
    chest wound, collapsed lung and may have to undergo open-heart
    surgery, rescue officials said.
    The roughly 5-foot wide, 30 pound stingray died on the boat,
    firefighters said. They kept it in a plastic bag and on ice until
    Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Officers picked it up,
    Sullivan said.
    Ellen Pikitch, a professor of marine biology and fisheries at
    the University of Miami, who has been studying stingrays for
    decades, said the fish are generally docile creatures.
    "Something like this is really, really extraordinarily rare,"
    she said. "I've never heard any reports of a stingray attacking a
    person. Even when they are under duress, they don't usually
    attack."
    "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin, 44, died Sept. 4 when a
    stingray's barb pierced his chest while he filmed a TV show on the
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    Stingrays are getting even with us ! Its another conspiracy !
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