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    Talking Helmet ?

    Tell me what you guys think of this helmet http://www.thefirestore.com/store/ca...id_1697_ustm6/ its the one on the bottom right corner *Bullard Traditional Fire Helmet Matte Finish w/Flip Down Eyeshields - Non NFPA* thats the name of it or if you guys dont like that for your own reason i would appericate it if you list another link and the helmet you recommend my department gets called out on mostly car accidents and medical calls once in a while we get a live burn our department is small im looking for a new helmet with the bourke eyeshields/goggles im currently wearing the one the department issued the dome helmet with a 6inch face shield i hate it i figured i would ask the experienced guys which helmets you guys perfer thanks

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    Don't do it!

    Bullard makes excellent thermal imagers.. their helmets, in a word...suck!

    I have one... issued to me after my Cairns 1010 got stolen out of the rig at a medical call.

    It is, without a doubt, the most uncomfortable lid I have ever had.

    It is hanging on my garage wall, where it will stay... never to be on my head again!
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    Is Cairns very good? i just dont know which helmets are the not very good i want to invest my money into a good helmet by the sounds of it bullard isnt very good at all please keep the suggestions coming in they will be a great source of help when i pick out my new helmet thanks

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    I concur with the Capt. I have a Bullard, had to exchange it for my Cairns. SUCKS!
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    I only wore a bullard for 3 months and HATED the thing, had a Cairns for over two years before that, and while the thing was beat to hell, I LOVED IT. Now we are issued Morning Pride Ben2Plus. I would really like a 1010, 1044, or in a perfect world an N6A, but the Ben2 is lightyears ahead of the damn bullard.
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    Leather forever young man!!!! Cairns N6A or N5A depending on your states regulations.........

    It will last you the rest of your career barring getting run over........
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    I prefer the Paul Conway helmets myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1835Wayne
    Leather forever young man!!!! Cairns N6A or N5A depending on your states regulations.........

    It will last you the rest of your career barring getting run over........
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    Bullards suck except their wildland helmet. It s ok, but I am forced to wear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1835Wayne
    Leather forever young man!!!! Cairns N6A or N5A depending on your states regulations.........

    It will last you the rest of your career barring getting run over........
    You know I agree that leather is the way to go, but lasting a career?? I have been in Memphis for 11 and am on my 3rd or 4th. I am getting to close or you guys are staying to far away.

    Additionally, if you are buying one for yourself, I would watch ebay. You can get like new helmets at a significant cost savings.

    As a matter of fact, the city just offered us our old Ben 2's for dirt cheap. Many of them assigned to drivers never left the plastic. I would ewxpect many of them to be popping up shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1835Wayne

    It will last you the rest of your career barring getting run over........

    If YOU get run over, the Helment will outlast your Career....

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    I have gotten close enough that when I exit and remove my helmet the rear brim bent down as I held it....................

    However, you probably see more fire on a regular basis.

    True Harve, very true.

    My biggest reason is my leather will not start to go to pieces as quickly as the tactical tupperware. By the time my leather starts to burn, I am most likely already gone! I have had to replace a coat due to my helmet having peed all over it!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1835Wayne
    I have had to replace a coat due to my helmet having peed all over it!!
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    CARINS !!!!!!!!! IS THE WAY TO GO, and no rubbermaid bowls on the head please !!!

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    As far as comfort and quality goes Cairns is by far the best. Lots of different options and choices.

    http://www.cascadefire.com

    They have got some good prices on helmets right now and the delivery is pretty fast.

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    Go with Cairns.

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    i'm partial to my ust6 i got stuck with a cairns 664 where i interned i hate damn turtle shell BS. I hope when i go paid to get a leather from my department or get my own leather but for the time being my ust6 does the job very well. Leather is nice i admit but i'll take a traditonal over one of the turtle shells anyday. my advice is go with what you think you can work in.

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    thanks guys

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    I really should edit that post...............

    THe Helmet MELTED and DRIPPED on my coat.
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    Ben2 in my opinion is the best even better than the cairns 1010. Leather if you can afford it. It sounds like you are in a slow house so save your money.
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    Ok, I take back some of what I said about the Bullards. My dad is on a USAR team that is just starting up here and they just got issued their personal equipment and they all got the Bullard USRX helmets and they are pretty damn nice. Mind you I haven't worn it for hours on end, but from when I did have it on it seemed comfortable and I liked it.
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    The problem I have with the Ben 2 and other non-cairns traditioanl style helmets is the brass finial or eagle. Should the leather front piece become dislodged or shrink in high heat (this has ben discussed before) you could have an isolated problem with hangeing wires or debris getting caught easier with these helmets(granted the probabilitly is low for this to occur), between the the leather and brass piece in question. Here are some pics of a Cairns leather, a 1010, and a Ben 2. Granted you could get caught up with the cairns but the ben 2 and similar helmts pose a greater risk.
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    Some of the new guys here have the new bullard helmets. There much better then the old helmets bullard made. I still love my ben 2, but it was time last month to trade it in. I got a 880 right now, there ok. My leather helmet will get here in December. (gift) And as you were saying 'EHS" our right. I had the same problem.

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    Default Cairns all the way!

    I help instruct firefighter I & II classess here in my county, usually as the fire tender in live burns. I have seen numerous bullard helmets bubble, and melt in the same heat as cairns helmets. The cairns lids are always fine. Go with Cairns and You will not be sorry. Also, as said before, Ebay has some really great deals. Or go here www.thefirestore.com they usually have the best prices and sometimes have sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehs7554
    The problem I have with the Ben 2 and other non-cairns traditioanl style helmets is the brass finial or eagle. Should the leather front piece become dislodged or shrink in high heat (this has ben discussed before) you could have an isolated problem with hangeing wires or debris getting caught easier with these helmets(granted the probabilitly is low for this to occur), between the the leather and brass piece in question. Here are some pics of a Cairns leather, a 1010, and a Ben 2. Granted you could get caught up with the cairns but the ben 2 and similar helmts pose a greater risk.
    If you're worried about the eagle getting caught, then you should be wearing a contemporary helmet.
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