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    What do you guys send for a report of a fire in a multifamily dwelling?

    In Washington, DC, a report of fire in any building, or smoke in a 3 storey or more building gets:
    5 Engines, with an officer and 3 F/F;
    2 Trucks, with an officer and 4 F/F;
    1 Rescue Squad with an officer and 4 F/F;
    and 1 Battalion Fire Chief with a SGT aide.
    37 F/Fs

    Evidence of fire on arrival gets a Working Fire Dispatch, which brings more...

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    Combo department. Surburban/Rural area.

    1 manned station (Central) with vollies responding to it as well (engine, rescue, light rescue/service, brush truck) with 1 to 3 paid personnel, depending on time of day and often at least 2-4 volunteers hanging out or doing a ride-out shift. 4 volunteer stations. Parish medic unit also housed at our Central Station and at least 1 medic per shift is either an off duty firefighter from our/another fire dept. or cross-trained medic who can drive our apparatus and pump our engine.

    We only have 2 apartment complexes. Both are 2 story and have 6-8 units per building. Both masonary with external open stairwells and walkways. One has 6 buildings of 6 units each. Other has 5 buildings of 8 units each.

    Run Card:

    3 engines

    1 Rescue
    Tanker 1 (3000 gallons)
    1 service (often the light recue, but its optional as the rescue can also serve as the service truck uder our rating system)

    Daytime we often call mutual aid to cover the 3rd engine and Tanker.
    Working fire evening may bring request for 1 additiional mutual aid engine from duty officer, depending on initial dispatch.

    Confirmed fire might get a truck company from the neighboring full-time city department, depending on the officer who has the duty and the nature of the information. They have a 75' quint at the station on the district line, about 10 miles from these buildings, but they don't like to send it out of the city unless we have a confirmed fire as it leaves a fairly big hole in thier coverage area if it leaves the city. They also have a 95' quint about 15 miles out. We could request it but they really hate to send that MA as it's thier only dedicated truck company, so it's unlikely we would request it.

    Both complexes are on descent water systems but a tanker box is an option in a high-flow situation.

    Manpower will fluctuate. M-F we have 2 paid FFs on plus FT Asst. Chief. Average daytime vollie response is 4-8. Weekend days 2 paid FFs, with an average vollie response of 6-10. Evenings (weekdays and weekends) 1 paid FF. Average evening vollie rideouts at Central Staion 3-5 plus another 10-15 vollies responding from home to scene or our other 4 stations for apparatus.
    Chiefs average 1-2 for evening and weekend fires. We may get a 2nd Chief for daytime runs as they work for career FDs and may catch them on thier days off.
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    Brooks:

    Here is Rockford (IL)'s initial response for a fire in multi-family:

    (3) Engines-Staffed with an Officer, DR, (2) FF's
    (2) Trucks-Staffed with an Officer, DR, (2) FF's
    (1) Ambo-Staffed with (2) FF's (Only for Medical Stand-by)
    (1) District Chief

    Total: 20 FF's, 2 FF/PM's, and a Chief

    Note: If it is confirmed, we may get another Engine for RIT.

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    A report of an apartment wether in a building or dwelling gets 4 Engines, 2 Ladders, 2 Chiefs.
    Just another one of the 99%ers looking up.

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    3, 2, & 2.

    Any apparent working fire gets a heavy.

    All staffed with 1 officer, 1 driver, 2 firefighters.
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    Staffing will be variable by time-of-day and day-of-week. Indeed, even if all the apparatus on the 1st alarm card gets out will depend on that.

    For our center area which contains most of the MFDs, nursing facilities, and correctional center first alarm is us (1 station & 1 sub-station), and 3 additional stations on automatic mutual aid in a "dump the barn" situation. Figure between all of them manpower will be 30 to 70.

    4 Engine-Tanks (Our "attack" units)
    3 Engines (Hose-Tenders...about 10,000' of 5" between them)
    1 Aerial
    2 Tankers
    3 Rescues (Medium / Heavy)
    1 Ambulance
    Several small engines, mini-pumpers, support units

    If it's working, you'll see either a special call or additional alarm struck very quickly to bring in another aerial or two, and additional manpower as necessary.

    Yep, the alarm is heavy...OTOH, it's rare (three times I can think of in 20 years...) to strike a 2nd alarm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmatian190
    Staffing will be variable by time-of-day and day-of-week. Indeed, even if all the apparatus on the 1st alarm card gets out will depend on that.

    If it's working, you'll see either a special call or additional alarm struck very quickly to bring in another aerial or two, and additional manpower as necessary.

    Yep, the alarm is heavy...OTOH, it's rare (three times I can think of in 20 years...) to strike a 2nd alarm.
    Better to have it and not need it works in many jobs.My old volunteer department responds with as many people as can answer the pager.Due to our area being split by a river,the area the call is in decides which rig does the engine work and which does truck.The closest unit is the engine and the other is the truck.It seems to work well enough for now.
    We don't have any buildings high enough to really warrant a ladder,though it would be useful for the water tower or when we DO get taller buildings(3 stories or so).

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    Work:

    3 engines (each staffed with at least three)
    2 special services companies
    - Both our towers and heavy squads fall into this category
    - At least one of the SS companies has to be a TL, you can't have two heavy squads
    - Each staffed with at least three
    1 BC

    A working fire decloration gets you an FD ALS-staffed ambulance, the air & light unit, and EMS supervisor.

    Each extra alarm gets you two more engines and one more special services company.

    We run 20 engines, 5 tower ladders, a 3 heavy squads.


    Volunteer:
    3 engines & 3 tankers with as much available manpower as there is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson
    We don't have any buildings high enough to really warrant a ladder,though it would be useful for the water tower
    You know your having a bad day when you need to put out the water tower

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    You know your having a bad day when you need to put out the water tower

    *whistles* and looks the other way...

    And not the day that happened...but I was once assigned to the ladder pipe...with the orders that our mission was to keep another aerial cooled down so they could stay in their location! Did have a nice vantage point when another aerial further up the block had to axe cut their supply lines to hasten the retreat...

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    3 Engines
    1 Truck
    1 Squad (heavy rescue)
    1 DC

    Minimum staff is 3 per (except DC), officer, engineer, FF. Most are 4 (1-1-2)

    3rd Engine is RIG (RIT/FAST).

    All Engines are ALS (as are most Squads), so a seperate medic unit isnt required.
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    we resond with

    3 Engines each with 3 guyes (one officer on each)
    2 Trucks one staffed with 3 one staffed with 4 (one officer on each)
    1 medium rescue with 3 (one officer)
    3 chiefs

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    Normal response for a Phone Alarm reporting a fire in a building is:

    2 Engines, 2 Trucks and a B/C.

    If one or both of the responding Engines have only 4 firefighters (which is normally the case) then they respond "10-14" (ONLY 4 Firefighters).

    If there is a 10-14 Engine on the assignment then an extra engine must be added to make the response 3 & 2.

    If upon arrival there is a confirmed fire, then one of the first arriving officers will transmit a 10-75. Upon transmission of a 10-75 the TOTAL ASSIGNMENT will be

    4 Engines (4 or 5 firefighters depending on location and the boss)
    2 Ladders (5 firefighters and the boss)
    1 Ladder as a FAST TRUCK (5 firefighters and the boss
    2 Battalion Chiefs
    1 Rescue (if available) (5 firefighters & a boss)
    1 Squad (if available) (5 firefighters & a boss)

    If the normally assigned Squad or Rescue are not available upon transmission of the 10-75 then the Dispatcher will advise the Battalion Chief, "Your normally assigned Squad/Rescue is not available, if one is needed we can special call one.

    If the Battalion Chief transmits and "All Hands, doubtful" then a Rescue and a Squad MUST be assigned even if it is from another borough. The "doubtful" means that the fire is "doubtful will hold" or not yet under control.

    Upon the tranmission of an "All Hands, Doubtful" the TOTAL ASSIGNMENT will be:

    4 Engines
    2 Ladders
    1 Ladder as a FAST TRUCK
    2 Battalion Chiefs
    1 Rescue
    1 Squad
    1 Division Chief
    1 RAC (Recouperation & Care or rehab)

    There are three phases of fires when it comes to radio/dispatch terminology. "Doubtful will hold", "Probably will hold" and "Under Control". Normally, a fire will not go to a "Probably Will Hold" until they are sure that fire is not extending in the walls, shafts or other voids. If there is a heavy fire condition or a well advanced fire on arrival, normally the "All Hands on arrival, extra engine & truck" will be transmitted. Obviously, you would get one more Engine and one more truck

    A 10-76 or 10-77 transmission (confirmed fires in a commercial or residential hi-rise occupancy) receives a lot more equipment, specialized equipment and manpower.
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    My former department would respond to a working fire whether it be in a hi-rise, a store, multiple dwelling or house fire with:

    2 Engines (1 officer, 1 firefighter and a Chauffeur)
    1 Automatic Aid Engine (1 officer, 1 firefighter and a Chauffeur)
    1 Ladder (usually 1 officer, 1 firefighter and a Chauffeur but sometimes could be only 2 FFs).
    1 Automatic Aid Squad (1 Chauffeur, 1 firefighter & 1 boss normally)
    1 Automatic Aid Ladder (1 Chauffeur, 1 firefighter & 1 boss normally)
    2 Ambulances (2 firefighter/paramedics)
    1 Command Van

    I couldn't even begin to count how many chiefs that we used to receive upon the transmission of a confirmed fire. I am not kidding when I say 8-10 Chiefs.

    Additionally, these would respond later but couldn't be counted on since they were manned by callback personnel and you never knew if anyone was going to show up:
    2 Engines
    1 Aerial Ladder
    1 Squad
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    Fire in a MFD, with minimum staffing:

    If it is only one call to 911, between 0800 and 2400 hours:
    2 Engines (4 men companies), 1 Ladder (5 men companies), District Chief
    - In E.10's first and second due, Rescue 1 responds; In E.42's first and second due, Rescue 2 responds. Rescues run 5 men companies
    Staffing: 14 to 19 personnel

    If units arrive and find smoke or fire showing;
    - in District 1, 3, 4, 6, 11: TL (tower ladder) 3
    - in District 5, 7, 8, 9, 12: TL.10
    Staffing: 19 personnel

    If it comes in after those hours, or with additional calls, it is a Struck Box, or, if you're listening, you'll hear the company say "__company calling Fire Alarm, strike box ___".
    3 Engines, 2 Ladders, Rescue__, District Chief
    - Downtown: C.6 (Division 1 Chief), TL.3* (tower ladder), Rescue 1
    - Division 2: C.7 (Division 2 Chief), TL.10*, Rescue 2
    - Waterfront: Marine Unit added
    - High Rise: Division Chief, Evac Chief (District Chief), Field Comm, TacCom
    * if not already assigned.
    Staffing: 34 personnel if TL not previously assigned.

    Working Fire:
    1 Engine, 1 Ladder, 1 Ladder (FAST)
    H.1 (Safety Chief)
    Division Chief
    1 Tower Ladder, if not already assigned.
    Special Unit
    W.25 (Air Supply)
    Field Comm
    TacCom
    W.25 (Rehab)

    Staffing: 49 personnel, not counting staffing for "support" apparatus.

    Basically if it goes to a working fire the compliment is 4 Engines, 4 Ladders, 1 Tower Ladder, 1 Rescue, 2 District Chiefs, 1 Division Chief and the specials.

    Truly a unique department. They are among the few who still "tap out" the box bumbers. Brooks, you'd find it interesting to know they alternate who responds on the medic-locals. Odd months, Engine. Even months, Ladder and Rescue.
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    This is our little volunteer department in our sleepy little town. Any "fire incident" which is basically anything besides a HazMat, MVA, EMS, or other type of rescue:

    First Alarm
    1st due Engine w/ minimum of a driver only (1000gal) to the scene
    Tanker w/ minimum of a driver only (3000gal) to the scene
    Heavy Rescue w/ crew of at least 4 to the scene
    2nd due engine with crew of at least 4 to a water source or the scene
    EMS Truck (Optional)
    Utility Truck (Optional)

    Second Alarm (Confirmed working fire)
    3 mutual aid tankers to the scene
    1 Mutual aid engine to the scene
    1 Mutual aid ladder to the scene
    1 Mutual aid tanker to cover the station
    1 Mutual aid RIT assignment
    ALS Ambulance to the scene

    Third Alarm (Everythings gone to hell)
    2 more mutual aid tankers to the scene
    1 more mutual aid engine to the scene
    1 more mutual aid ladder to the scene
    1 Mutual aid rescue
    Cover engine to the scene
    1 Mutual aid Engine for station coverage
    1 additional mutual aid RIT assignment

    Yes, it is a lot of stuff. Bear in mind we don't have hydrants and we have some big momma houses. Also, being all volunteer, manpower is thin during weekdays so mutual aid is very helpful even if you don't need 24,000 gallons of water. The third alarm would never happen unless it is the one shopping center or one of the schools ripping like mad.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    WOW, talk about DUH! Somehow I missed the "multi-family" part till I re-read it now.

    In that case...

    4 Engines
    2 Trucks
    1 Squad
    1 DC

    A second alarm is automatic if first due reports smoke and/or fire on arrival. Second is same as first plus 1 Com unit, 1 Re-Hab unit and an ambulance. At this point, multiple staff officers will appear.
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    We run the same crew with fire showing or not. We dont really have a alarm system. If we need a truck, we call a truck, need a engine, call a engine.

    3 Engines
    2 Ladders
    1 BC

    14 FF Total

    Buildings over 3 floors get another Engine with 3 FF.

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    Our Dept daily staffing is 5 engines and 2 truck/rescue companies. All companies manned by 1 CO, 2 FFs. The rescue/truck companies each have an aerial and a rescue truck. The rig they take depends on the call.

    Multiple dwelling or commercial building gets:

    3 Engines
    1 Truck
    1 Rescue
    1 BC

    Working fire gets add'l engine for RIT, and usually the 5th engine for manpower. 1 Private ALS ambulance for standby. There are immediate callbacks for add'l Chief and a Safety officer. Anything after that is mutual aid or callbacks.

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    Box Alarms/House Alarms/Street Boxes, Etc
    3 Engines
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    1 Rescue(ems)
    1 Chief

    if a code red(structure fire) is called
    an additional ladder is added for the F.A.S.T(R.I.T) co.

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    Providence, RI (capital city also the largest in the state)


    Box Alarm
    A box alarm is an alarm for help received from either a street box alarm pulled by a person witnessing an emergency or from a master box alarm often found in high occupancy residential and commercial buildings, schools, dormitories, hospitals, churches. A box alarm assignment may be increased or reduced at the discretion of the dispatcher or responding chief depending on additional information available, such as a caller stating that construction workers accidentally set off a smoke detector with dust, which in turn transmitted a master box alarm to the BOC. On the other hand, the response may be increased accordingly if a fire-related condition is found or called in.

    Street Box Alarm - 1 Engine (and 1 Ladder after 11pm)
    Master Box Alarm - 3 Engines, 2 Ladders, 1 Chief officer

    Still Box
    A still box is an alarm of fire, smoke, or other fire-related condition in a building received by telephone. Upon trasmission of a code red, additional companies are usually dispatched. An additional Ladder company will be dispatched as a F.A.S.T. company (Firefighter Assist and Search Team) to assemble equipment at the scene and be ready to intervene rapidly if a firefighter transmits a mayday message or otherwise requires urgent assistance. A Rescue company will also be dispatched to a confirmed fire if not already sent. An Engine company will be sent as the command company to assist the incident commander. And another Engine company will be sent as the safety company(officer of the engine assumes job of safety officer and can either use the engine crew to assist with safety or designate them to help with another function)

    A chief officer may request additional fire companies in the form of an additional alarm assignment (ie- 2nd alarm, 3rd alarm, 4th alarm, etc.) if more personnel and apparatus are needed. Alternatively a chief may request that any combination of companies be special signaled to the scene in addition to companies already responding.

    If only 1 call received - 3 Engines, 2 Ladders, Special Hazards 1(heavy rescue), 1 Chief officer
    If 2+ calls received - 3 Engines, 2 Ladders, Special Hazards 1(heavy rescue), 1 Chief officer, 1 Rescue(ems)
    2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th alarms - 2 Engines and 1 Ladder for each additional alarm assignment

    Still Alarm
    A still alarm is any alarm of an emergency which is not a box alarm or still box alarm. There are some standard responses, but a still alarm response is determined by the dispatcher depending on the needs and nature of that specific call.

    1 Rescue: medical emergencies requiring basic medical care
    1 Rescue + 1 Engine or Ladder: medical emergencies requiring advanced medical care and/or forcible entry, vehicle accidents
    1 Engine: car fires, grass fires, downed power lines, water (flooding) emergencies
    1 Engine + 1 Ladder: commercial alarms monitored by private companies such as ADT
    1 Engine + Special Hazards 1: vehicles leaking fuel or other fluids, small fuel or oil spills, lockouts from running or occupied vehicles
    1 Ladder + Special Hazards 1: carbon monoxide detector alarms
    1 Ladder: forcible entry needs (ie-keys locked in building/apartment)
    1 Engine, 1 Ladder, Special Hazards 1, 1 Rescue, Chief officer: elevator emergencies, industrial accidents, vehicle accidents involving a rollover, (leaking) gas emergencies
    1 Engine, 1 Ladder, Special Hazards 1, 1 Rescue, Chief officer, Dive Team members: water rescues, ice rescues

    Codes
    The officer in charge of the first arriving fire company is responsible for giving an initial situation report to Fire Alarm, and relaying whether or not additional resources are needed. The codes used by the Providence Fire Department are:

    Code Red

    Confirmed structure fire. Unless otherwise specified, a Code Red report automatically triggers the dispatch of additional companies (see Still Box). If companies responding to a Box Alarm or Still Alarm find a fire-related condition, you might hear the officer ask Fire Alarm to "fill in the box" which means to dispatch additional companies to make the response equal to a Still Box response.

    Code Yellow

    The situation can be handled by the companies specified by the reporting officer. For example, if the first engine of a Box Alarm assignment encounters a condition other than fire, the officer might report a Code Yellow for the first engine and first ladder, and possibly the responding chief.

    Code Blue

    False alarm.

    Code "C"

    Without the use of emergency lights and sirens; on a non-emergency basis. An officer already at the scene of an emergency can request a company or companies not already on the scene to continue their response Code "C".

    Code 99

    Cardiac Arrest, CPR in progress.

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    4 Engines
    1 Truck
    1 Tower Ladder
    1 Rescue
    1 Squad

    FAST unit from a M/A dept (type of apparatus can vary by dept, generally a Rescue)

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    I work for a combo dept. I work on the only career engine in town at night. We have three other career companies during the day, but are on our own at night. The type of structure doesn't matter, we send the jurisidicational dept. and two mutual aid dept. (they may send an engine or a ladder). The only difference is, if its a commerical structure fire one of the companies will be a ladder; but its still basically 3 trucks. Most of the time for a house fire we have 3 engines and the career Batt Chief, for a commerical fire its two engines, a ladder and the Batt Chief. No minimum #of F/F, its not uncommon for us (the career engine) to lay our own supply line, force entry, attack the fire, vent, and perform the primary seach with 1 Batt chief(command) one driver(Pump operator), one Lt(company officer) and two FF(nozzleman and irons man). Luckily we have only had one close call, luck can't last forever. We average 150-175 working fires a year.

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    Cool What we roll

    This is what we roll at my Departments........

    Paid-Call Department:
    5 Engines from our Department
    2 Staffed Engines, the rest Paid-Call
    1 Squad or Patrol
    1 Medic Ambulance
    1 BC or whoever is the Duty Chief
    Cover units and specialty units as requested

    2 Engines from C.D.F.

    Depending on where the fire is possibly a full response from the U.S.F.S. or from LACoFD.


    Career Department:
    2 Engines
    1 Truck
    1 BC or Duty Chief
    1 Ambulance
    1 Safety Officer (usually our Training Chief)
    1 Investigator (either C.I.D. or our Prevention Bureau)
    M.P.s and D.O.D. Police

    In some areas of our first due, this is the same however 1 Water Tender is added to the initial assignment.

    Upon confirmation of a "working fire" we automatically start a second alarm.
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