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    Default Chevron Striping

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    I posted in an earlier thread somewhere on here a bunch of photos of different color combos. The point is moot however, because the next revision of NFPA 1901 is going to set the colors as yellow and red.

    You can read the changes by looking on NFPA's site at the 2008 Reports on Proposals:

    http://www.nfpa.org/Assets/Files/PDF...-A2008-ROP.pdf

    Page 33 of the document at the above link, and item #15.9.3.2 goes through what I believe you'll see NFPA mandating in the near future.

    (Credit goes to someone else who recently posted this link on the forums, but I think for a different subject matter.)

    We have the red white chevron on two rigs, and I like it alot and it makes sense. I'm thinking of pushing putting it on a bunch of our other rigs that have painted rear surfaces, it should be fairly inexpensive to do and just makes sense to me. I'll have to check with our local graphics purveyor to see what she'd charge to do the install...
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    Default Chevron striping

    We put it on our 06 LaFrance Pumper Tanker. It really makes it stand out at night. We want to retrofit out 96 Smeal to match this one at some point.
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    We have chevron striping on the back of our heavy rescue, and since the majority of the MVAs we respond to are on a US highway swarming with log trucks and speed freaks, I can't imagine being out there without it. It makes the apparatus VERY visible from a distance, day or night, and it allows us to reduce the number of flashing lights on scene. Too many flashing lights has been shown to actually decrease visibility to drivers approaching the scene and can cause secondary MVAs.

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    Default Chevron striping for treadplate

    Has everyone gone to the extreme of sending their apparatus into the shop for a retrofit of smooth aluminum and application of the chevron striping on the back? BIG BUCKS!!!
    Many of the departments around us have tried the SCENEdots. Works really well, same retro-reflective material as the side of the trucks, best of all....cost is way less.

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    Our new engine will have some red/white chevrons on the rear. None of are other vehicles do yet. May be talk of retrofitting in the future. Traffic Incident Management has recently became a huge topic in our area and is why we addressed ordering chevrons. At this point in time we will be the first to have them in quite a large area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22 View Post
    We SERIOUSLY looked into doing it on our pumper/tanker. The only issue we got into was price (we were restricted because of grant funds and had to prioritize). It looks different and takes some getting used to, but I think it's a pretty wise investment.
    You should check out the SCENEdots! I think you'd be surprised!

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    I have done our tanker, rescue , mini and engine with SCENEdots it takes a little time to put them on but it does look nice
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    I see the link is a bit old but here's what my dept did with the engine and tanker/tender we took delivery of last summer. I was a bit skeptical at first but once I saw the engine at night with the LED's lit up and the reflectiveness of the chevron I was sold!!! We are now looking into placing the "Scenedots" on our remaining apparatus.




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    Have you checked out the product called Traffik Lites. They are made by a company called TK Design out of Indianapolis. The owner is a ff there in indy and we have the fix for chevron stripping on diamond plate. Check out his website at www.tkdesignindy.com or www.traffiklites.com.

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    Web site are just that, a picture. If your attempting to chevron your rig make sure the picture you look at was not taken with a flash. A flash will make any reflective material look like it has high visibilty, so ask for a picture using headlights. Make sure the material meets all the specs for 1901 also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotgirl View Post
    You should check out the SCENEdots! I think you'd be surprised!
    You should check out the TERMS OF SERVICE. I think you'd be surprised. Then, you can stop spamming and get an advertising space like everyone else.


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    Can the Chevron striping be Red & White or does it need to be a yellow / green color?

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    15.9.3.2.1 each stripe in the chevron shall be a single color alternating between red and either yellow, flourescent yellow or flourescent yellow-green

    15.9.3.2.2 each stripe shall be 6" in width

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    Quote Originally Posted by THTMAN View Post
    Can the Chevron striping be Red & White or does it need to be a yellow / green color?
    It can be whatever color you want if you're doing a retrofit. If the rig is newly built, then it's what the standard (mentioned above) requires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    It can be whatever color you want if you're doing a retrofit. If the rig is newly built, then it's what the standard (mentioned above) requires.
    Actually that is not true, however not very many people know about it.

    If you had chevrons on your rigs prior to the mandate, then you may put in for a waiver through your MFG. The request must say "TO MATCH YOUR FLEET". This is the ONLY exception to the color rule. If you did not have another color already in use then you must go with red / yellow.

    This information is from Ken Menke who is on the NFPA committee that mandated these colors. Ken told me that there is no proof that one color is better as a warning device than another color. The only reason for red/yellow was to standardize.

    There is not a problem with "MATCHING YOUR FLEET".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireslayer123 View Post
    Actually that is not true, however not very many people know about it.

    If you had chevrons on your rigs prior to the mandate, then you may put in for a waiver through your MFG. The request must say "TO MATCH YOUR FLEET". This is the ONLY exception to the color rule. If you did not have another color already in use then you must go with red / yellow.

    This information is from Ken Menke who is on the NFPA committee that mandated these colors.
    Do you know in which section of 1901 this exception exists?
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    Yeah, I'd LOVE to see this exception. I just looked over 1901 AGAIN and I see nothing referencing this. And every builder I know will not deviate from the red and yellow no matter what you've had on your prior rigs...

    Not saying I wouldn't like to see this, but I don't think this is the case.
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    I too searched the document, and found no reference to a color waiver. I searched on several key terms like "color", "chevron", and "waiv".

    On the other hand, I've seen manufactures offer non-compliant things on more than one occasion.

    When air horn controls were removed from being overhead, to either the steering wheel or floor, I saw Chiefs sign liability waivers to keep them on overhead strings.

    When my Dept bought a 100' platform that wasn't going to fit in the station, we asked the manufacturer to produce it with side rails that were lower than NFPA specified.

    I'm sure there will be more than one truck manufactured that will have a "Statement of Exceptions" (Chapter 4.21) outlining that the truck lacks chevrons, or the proper color chevrons.

    If one wanted red/white, you could just tell the builder to omit them, cause you had a guy in house that was going to install them super cheap. Then just add what you want after the fact. I don't recommend it, but it's an option.
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