Email me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I can get them.
If i pay $535 (that's with a discount), I expect it to be at least perfect out of the box.:confused: It was far from it, which leads me to believe Cairns wasn't ever and will never be the same after the MSA buy out. The quality just wasn't there and that's a fact. Read this entire thread, start to finish, I'm not the only one who has the same opinion. I would have loved to have the same quality and craftsmanship that once was the tradition of Cairns. Unfortunately, those days are over, and if I want to experience that tradition today, I either have to buy a pre MSA Cairns or buy a new Phenix TL2. I choose to go the safe route, buy a brand new TL2 and experience what Cairns once had and what Phenix takes pride in....quality & craftsmanship. ;)
the Phenix shields are made by Sam Brown Shields in Nicholasville KY
I am starting to get used to the sam brown shields now. I am sure it will look even better once it is seasoned.
We dont have any phenix dealers here in Canada, but I just wanted to say that phenix technology had the best customer service out of any company I have ever dealt with. IMO, the are a class 1 organization, great service, great product.
Well for future buyeers of the TL-2, the single biggest difference that is to be noted is the paint vs. dye. The Cairns I bought was painted like they all are and as I was replacing the factory tets, the adhesive from the tets pulled the paint and primer right off the damn helmet. This was a brand new out of the box helmet. I understand that paint falls chips and cracks with age but new out of the box is BS.
When I got my TL-2 I noticed that the black helmet I ordered, was dyed or painted very well. Working in Houston it got some good fires and only minor scratches revealed the leather. A sharpie fixed it quick.
Hopefully Phenix will not sell out and produce the crap that MSA is. Plus they just look way better !
Nice! Your department issue the TL2's or did your crew buy them?
Simply stating my opinion. That is what this thread is about. I am sorry if it is not what you wanted to hear. I have read this whole thread, as I have been a part of it from the start. I don't care what you where, so long as its not a salad bowel. :)
I know what you were getting at, just had to bust your balls a little bit. :cool:
I do love my tactical tupperwear lid on wildfires.
Casiano, could you post some pictures of your shields as you go through the steps of making them?
I know I keep asking you questions about making the shields, but it would be great to see some process pictures before I go destroy some leather trying to make some.
Why don't we start a new Forum about how to make leather shields, since we are stepping away form the subject of this thread. I'm sure many people are interested in the process of making a shield, me included! I've always wanted to learn how to make my own shield but wouldn't have a clue where to start. Who ever starts the new forum please do us all a favor of forwarding us the link on this thread.
thats an excellent suggestion, and since you thought it up you should lead the effort. :)
good ideas never go unpunished