Got my new TL-2. Just trying to decide which front to use. What do you think?
Happy Holidays and Stay Safe!
As for your shield, touch call. They both look pretty nice. The white version looks more professional. The black version just looks cool. Hell, change it every month,
I was really nervous about pulling the trigger on the helmet. I'm a relatively young Captain, and I've got a 30 year fire guy that likes to make fun of things! So I showed him the helmet yesterday and waited anxiously to see how much fun he'd make of me. He is not a big fan of heavy helmets. He was actually pretty impressed after putting it on how light it felt and how nice it looked. So that made the rest of the shift nice. Now to get it a little dirty!
Hey Mass: I've never heard anything about color of lettering meaning anything for engine or truck companies. Is that your department or a regional thing? Not many people out here in Utah use traditional helmets. So we have no standard like that that I've seen.
P.S. My kids said the same thing, the black and red looks "cool" Dad, the other one looks more "adult". I guess they know their Dad pretty well!
From what I've found on line since Mass's post:
Black "shield" with the following "insert" colors:
Black with white numbers is Engine
Red with white numbers is truck
Blue with white numbers is Rescue
Yellow with white numbers is squad company
Also, isn't the FDNY style front a large pinned panel that would be colored based on the assignment with the corresponding station numbers and then FDNY on the bottom rocker? They don't typically have any other rockers on it do they?
So all of FDNY's numbers are white, but the insert panel changes based on the company designation? Is that how you also do it MASS?
But the same article goes on to say that as usual, everybody does it a little differently.
Nice Lid! My choice is the white lettering. It'a s better contrast, and looks sharp in my opinion. I have someone in my station with red lettering on black backing, and after the first fire you can barely see the letters. Plus like it was mentioned....white letters are for Engine.
Is there anyway to order a phenix without goggles, shield and the accessory pack?
This is the best you can do without the front and the woowoo fun pack. They googles will come no matter what. NFPA reasons. http://www.illinoisfirestore.com/ser...er-TL-2/Detail
You can order it without the goggles directly from the company. Just look up Phenix fire helmets on line. However they won't put the NFPA sticker on the inside unless it has the goggles on the outside when it leaves their shop.
I already had brand new goggles so they let me ship them to them and then they mounted them on the new helmet for me. This allowed them to certify that at time of manufacture, the helmet met with and complied to the NFPA standard.
If you don't need a NFPA compliant helmet, they can do no eye protection, or flip downs. They also have different reflective trapazoid options that aren't NFPA compliant that you can choose.
They will build you what you want. And I must say that the service is second to none. I talked with the staff a couple of different times and they treated me very very well, and were very patient with all of my questions. Give the company a call and tell them what you want, I bet they can make it happen.
I've always seen
white letters on black for Engine FF
black letters on white for Engine boss
white letters on red for Truck FF
red letters on white for Truck Boss
while there is no national standard on colors, the white background seems to be an easy way to denote an officer.
Is someone able to post a TL2 next to a new Cairns for sizing comparison. I hate the new tall domes of the Cairns, but I'm not sure I can find a Phenix to put my hands on locally?
As for price, this looks like the best I can find: http://www.emergencyresponderproducts.com/trlefihe.html
Order anyway you want from the looks.
I have a Sam Houston that is 12 years old. I can tell you that by spec alone, it is 9oz heavier than a TL2. I think it is even heavier than that. I will be switching to a TL2 for myself, and not just because I am selling them. They are lighter, sit lower and seem to be built much better in general.
what's your website and/or prices? Also, what is a nape strap for the suspension? Thanks