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    Same thing I was thinking. Leather just looks better monotone.

    I look at helmets like my personal vehicles. They have got to be personalized. Otherwise whats the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    I was thinking of swapping these to black though...thoughts?
    Definitly the black ones. I assumed your chief wouldn't allow black ones or something like that. My chief wont let us use anything than the yellow ones. If I had a choice I'd have an all black helmet without any of those lame @ss things, but I guess the black stickers are the next best thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    I was thinking of swapping these to black though...thoughts?
    I've got black tets on my TL2 and get compliments all the time on it. Personally I love the way it looks with black tets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravage17 View Post
    Definitly the black ones. I assumed your chief wouldn't allow black ones or something like that. My chief wont let us use anything than the yellow ones. If I had a choice I'd have an all black helmet without any of those lame @ss things, but I guess the black stickers are the next best thing.
    We are pretty lucky to be able to personalize our gear the way we can. At the moment, the only things I have in my PPE that are department owned are the coat and pants.

    Black it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    I've got black tets on my TL2 and get compliments all the time on it. Personally I love the way it looks with black tets.
    I saw yours and liked it alot. That is the route I am going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    What in specific were you not satisifed with? The only thing I wish the TL2 has that it doesnt is leather on the inside like the delux Cairns helmets do. Other than that I feel nothing that feels cheap or not on par with a qaulity helmet.
    I bought the deluxe leather liner for the cairns helmets and modified it for the Phenix. now it is perfect. I will try and get some pics for you guys. all I had to do is cut two small lines in the liner where the rubber stoppers are in the helmet. It is great. I still kept the suede pad at the back.

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    I also bought a new Leather front for the TL2. I just wasn't totally happy with the look of the Sam Brown Shields. If anyone wants a Paul Conway front, you have to call them and tell them you have the TL2 helmet. They will make the shield that is 6.25" and a wide body to fit this helmet. It is not currently offered on their shield builder on the website.

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    Here is the Paul Conway front made for the TL2 helmets
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    This is the Leather Cairns liner that I modified to fit the Phenix. Makes the helmet that much more enjoyable.
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    Does anyone use the GloFlex Tetrahedrons on their helmets?

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    When MSA bought Cairns they were shipping them that way for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFD94 View Post
    This is the Leather Cairns liner that I modified to fit the Phenix. Makes the helmet that much more enjoyable.
    Awesome. I am going to have to do some test fitting on mine to make it work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KFD94 View Post
    This is the Leather Cairns liner that I modified to fit the Phenix. Makes the helmet that much more enjoyable.
    What did you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MassFireGuy View Post
    What did you do?
    Second picture. He cut the felt backing to fit around the impact cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MassFireGuy View Post
    What did you do?
    Thats right GT. WHen you look at the cairns liner it is basically one whole piece with no cuts or anything in it. It also has velcro tabs to secure it in a helmet.

    With the phenix. They have those rubber retentions (you can see it in the second picture, just to the right of my fingers.) I have to cut it so it would fit around it.

    For those who have the cairns liner: If you just try attaching it as it comes, you will see where the liner bunches up and does not fit nice and flat. All I did was just cut a small line so it fits around the suspension.

    If this does not make total sense I appologize. it is early, and I am headed to work. I will try and take some better pics if you guys want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KFD94 View Post
    Does anyone use the GloFlex Tetrahedrons on their helmets?
    I would steer clear of them. GloFlex has a very poor quality adhesive. I had a sheet of Tets and bars from them that we used on some Pelican style cases and the adhesive never seems to dry. On a warm day (i don't mean super hot, just warm) you can move them around. The adhesive is like jelly. I called and complained and they sent me two new sets. I figured it was a fluke. But the ones they sent me were the same thing. A few months later, we had a case sitting out in the sunlight. The Tets and Bars were sliding down the case and falling off! We had prepped the surfaces with alcahol as well, so it was not a contamination issue.

    If you have ever handled sheets of Scotchlite or Reflexite stickers, you probably noticed there is no issue with adhesive getting on your hands. But if you pick up a sheet of GloFlex, the adhesive is all around the edges and sticks to your fingers. The stuff is terrible. And getting the residue off anything you stick these things too is a nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WD6956 View Post
    I would steer clear of them. GloFlex has a very poor quality adhesive. I had a sheet of Tets and bars from them that we used on some Pelican style cases and the adhesive never seems to dry. On a warm day (i don't mean super hot, just warm) you can move them around. The adhesive is like jelly. I called and complained and they sent me two new sets. I figured it was a fluke. But the ones they sent me were the same thing. A few months later, we had a case sitting out in the sunlight. The Tets and Bars were sliding down the case and falling off! We had prepped the surfaces with alcahol as well, so it was not a contamination issue.

    If you have ever handled sheets of Scotchlite or Reflexite stickers, you probably noticed there is no issue with adhesive getting on your hands. But if you pick up a sheet of GloFlex, the adhesive is all around the edges and sticks to your fingers. The stuff is terrible. And getting the residue off anything you stick these things too is a nightmare.
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    Some of our helmets were issued with these ( about the time of the change-over, I would guess ). The stickers come off under a hard stare.

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    Thinking about selling my tl2
    hasnt even been used yet just put my old borkes on it so those would go with it
    do know yet just not sure if id rather have a n6a
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    SAFD:

    Where you at? I'd like to look at that helmet; see what they're all about. If you do get a Houston, everything you've read is pretty close: try to get hold of one made in the mid-ninties. The crown will be smaller, and it'll just generally be more...solid, as compared to the more recent N6a's.
    I've been wearing the leathers for about 12 years and I don't think I'd buy a 2010 made Houston, but I'd like to see what the Phenix helmets feel like after all the bru-ha-ha...

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    Steve Nunn @ T11-A .
    yeah just not sure about it. It is nice but just different and you know how that goes.

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