To those with reductions

[ktb9780]

How many powered cots did you ask for?

[emschief201]

Two. One for each of the two ambulances we staff.

[nc1130]

The post asked for what type of reductions?

Received this on 10/4

This is for EMS/Rescue Protective Equipment (NFPA 1951 / 1999) Helmets w/goggles Coats, Pants, Safety Shoes, Gloves asked for 50 sets.

Upon reviewing your application, the budget was reduced by $16,350. The Program Office has reduced the number of all Personal Protective Gear to 40 units per line. If awarded the Assistance to Firefighters Grant 06 the total project cost will be reduced from $81,750 to $65,400. The federal share will be reduced from $77,663 to $62,130. The applicant match will be reduced from $4,087 to $3,270. Please reply back to this email acknowledging said changes.

We acepted the reduction.

[ktb9780]

Two. One for each of the two ambulances we staff.

Your costs seem awfully high. You should have been able to get Stryker Power Pro 700s at around 8-9K. Not sure but maybe they threw them out simply as being way too excessive. You have to remember the grant is only supposed to fund basic needs and with only 2% of the money availablke for EMS they could fund another departments for a 12 lead defibrillator or something of that nature. Did you cite any "recent" workman;s comp claims or instances where you have had multiple patients during the past year that needed that capapbility?

[ktb9780]

Same here. Just found out today.

General rule of thumb in grants folks; "Don't ask for the Cadillac if a VW will do the job". The grant request must be "reasonable" and with a program that has seen $150 million reduction in three years, they are still looking to fund as many departments as they can.

[nmfire613]

SCBA Mask with amplified voice reduced from $450 to $275 which basically means no amplified voice.

Same here. Just found out today.

[Attack6]

We recieved the reduction email which reduced our Washer/Extractor and dryer grant to $15,000. I checked my application and saw that the numbers have been administratively changed on my budget to reflect this. Progress from last week for us.

[DellroyVFD08]

SCBA Mask with amplified voice reduced from $450 to $275 which basically means no amplified voice.

Brian...could we expect a SECOND reduction? We got reduced in the number of face pieces, but didn't reduce the amount. If I remember correctly we got face pieces and spare bottles with each SCBA plus $650.00 plus fit testing on each of the face pieces. Why would we be awarded that amount and they get reduced?

[ford88jarrett]

Iam now wondering if we will get a reduction on are SCBA. We recieved this morning a email from dhs and they said the recieved are confirmation for the SF 1199A form. At the top of the email it had are award #. When we applied fro SCBA we put down to replace 10 sets with spare bottle at $4,700 each. We also applied for 15 extra face pieces at $425. I wonder how long before are award will be announced or if we will get a reduction notice and hold up the award.

[Culpster]

We recieved a reduction in our communications grant yesterday. Our grant was reduced 600$ (total) for our pagers. We asked for 450$ and they asked us to reduce to 400$ a piece (pretty petty if you ask me).

[ford88jarrett]

We just recieved are reduction notice on are grant. They took away the $ amount to spend on hoses, nozzles, and face pieces. I replied back and told that we would agree to the cuts. They emailed me back right away and said are grant would move onto the next phase.

[asstrace]

Do you get the reduction requests before or after the you receive 1199A and 10 Q's?

[BC79er_OLDDELETE]

They have been coming after the 1199A, sometimes as part of the 10 Q's, sometimes an another email later. Reductions come from a different division than the 10 Q's, but sometimes they have been entered before the pre-notifications go out so they come all in one email. Just depends.

[Not2L84U2]

Anyone know what the limits are on individual pieces of PPE. We have about 10 pairs of good pants and about 20 boots and we're going to supply the gloves, hoods, and suspenders so we're going to break it out into a request for coats, pants, boots, and helmet. Not that I want to ask for the max but just want to make sure that we're not over the max before we ask.

[BC79er_OLDDELETE]

Gloves ~$100 (if you want gauntlet, very nice choice IMHO)
Hoods ~$50
Boots ~$250
Suspenders - never seen one, but never seen a pair of $50 suspenders either
Coats $800-900
Pants $600-700
Helmets ~$250

Head to Toe was as high as $2150 from what I've seen this year.

[onebugle]

Coat/pant combo: $1375

[Not2L84U2]

Excellent...thanks guys. Looks like we're right on target...close to some and below on other. Was worried about helmets...I thought I had saw where someone was saying $200 and we were coming up with like $225 or so. Looks like we're fine though. Thanks again.

[Not2L84U2]

Anyone received a reduction for a RIT pack?

[BC79er_OLDDELETE]

Hadn't seen one in the pile of them that I did last year, anywhere from $2500-3500 depending on bottle.

[Not2L84U2]

Thanks Brian...had a company quote $4286 for one hour bottle RIT pack. I thought that was a little high. Of course I think their whole quote is high. They are quoting $5741 for a 4500 45 min SCBA (MSA), $371 for individual face peices, $192 for HUD and next to it in parenthesis it says batteries...so still not sure what that means, and $1290 for a spare bottle....that seems a bit extreme doesn't it? I mean for 13 SCBA, spare bottles, and 8 additional face peices they are over $100K. I told the guy from this department to go back to him and tell him to sharpen his pencil...either that or look at SCOTT or Dragar, or something else...problem then is going to be interoperability.