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    Everyone is high because no one has real 2007ed pricing so odds are you have list price which is what you want anyway. All manufacturers predict $1000-1500 increases for 2007ed packs because of the high standards. So most are going in for $6000+ per pack. Better to let DHS reduce than not ask for enough.

    Scott is still in compliance testing last I heard and no one so far has passed. 3 companies went before them and all failed. Will be interesting to see if anyone passes if they let us go with 2002ed packs at award time.


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    Just a perspective on the cost of Scott RIT packs. We were quoted (last year) $3800 for 60 minute carbon cylinder, 20' low pressure hose, 6' EBSS hose, 10' RIC hose, quick disconnect easy flow regulator, facepeice & carrying bag. This was the price before taking the discount (15%) for state bid pricing that we go by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not2L84U2 View Post
    Thanks Brian...had a company quote $4286 for one hour bottle RIT pack. I thought that was a little high. Of course I think their whole quote is high. They are quoting $5741 for a 4500 45 min SCBA (MSA), $371 for individual face peices, $192 for HUD and next to it in parenthesis it says batteries...so still not sure what that means, and $1290 for a spare bottle....that seems a bit extreme doesn't it? I mean for 13 SCBA, spare bottles, and 8 additional face peices they are over $100K. I told the guy from this department to go back to him and tell him to sharpen his pencil...either that or look at SCOTT or Dragar, or something else...problem then is going to be interoperability.
    Sounds to me that your MSA distributor is using his Govt. quote calculator. We recently met with our rep. for some pricing on packs & upgrading our masks to hud's with radio voice boxes. 330.00 for mask + 145.00 for HUD . 885.00 for bottles. Don't remember off the top of my head what the radio voice box was $$$ . You can do better than that quote.

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    Well that's the goal at award time. Right now it's aim high for the 1-2 price increases you'll see between now and this time next year when your award might come through. No price you get now anyway counts, your 2 bids have to be dated after your public announcement date. Now is just ballparks.

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    Right, and that's what we're looking for...ballparks...but hate to guess it low and not have enough cash come award time but then again hate to price it high and drive the cost benefit up any more than we have to.

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    Just received an e-mail back for a $1,500 reduction. Requested that we reduce helmets from $250 each to $200 each. That still a good ballpark?

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    Not going to get leather buckets with it but still should be able to get pleathers (1010s) or something along those lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not2L84U2 View Post
    Just received an e-mail back for a $1,500 reduction. Requested that we reduce helmets from $250 each to $200 each. That still a good ballpark?
    It should be enugh Ryan.
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    Hmmmphhh....alright...I guess we'll take it

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    You can give them a call and plead your case. The worse case, they say "no". Others have been successful in restoring partial or even full funding. A $1,500 reduction is not bad......hold a car wash and vacuum the interior....I bet you can vacuum up that amount in loose change.

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    Hey whats wrong with 1010's, I've been wearing one for several years? I also have a leather thats hanging on my wall, and will hopefully stay there for a while. I bought it at a flea marlet for $6.00 yes, six, not six hundred and all I had to do was put a new shield on the front of it, the original had been blacked out with a marker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onebugle View Post
    You can give them a call and plead your case. The worse case, they say "no". Others have been successful in restoring partial or even full funding. A $1,500 reduction is not bad......hold a car wash and vacuum the interior....I bet you can vacuum up that amount in loose change.
    Forget the car wash--just offer free vaccuuming!! My car's probably good for $3 to $4.

    earl ($10 if you can get to the bottom of the center console)

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    Our chief said the same thing Bugle...he told me just to take the money and run. Something about not being able to win every arguement...who knows what he means

    Derrick, nothing wrong with 1010's. I love my 1044. That's going to be the next debate...whether we're going to traditional or going to stick with something like a 660.

    Earl, boy have I get a deal for you. How about you drive down here and make a small monetary donation and then I'll vacuum the $4 out of your vehicle for you. And if you wait 3 or 4 weeks to do it then we'll let Sue hold the baby. It doesn't get any better than that does it? By the way, did you get my e-mail about the waterball?

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    Yep, got it. Started to reply at least 5 times and got paged in the middle of each--most recently the day you got the 2 notices!! Local farmers and homeowners have asked that i not try to e-mail you.

    No line on a waterball maker up here. I'll keep checking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not2L84U2 View Post
    Just received an e-mail back for a $1,500 reduction. Requested that we reduce helmets from $250 each to $200 each. That still a good ballpark?
    Purchase 1x white leather and buy real helmets for everyone else that actually works.

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    Just received an e-mail back for a $1,650 reduction. Requested that we reduce pagers from $525 each to $450 each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eng645 View Post
    Just received an e-mail back for a $1,650 reduction. Requested that we reduce pagers from $525 each to $450 each.
    If oyu can provide them with two ro three quotes showing the cheapest price at above what they are asking, then email copies o the FPS and ask them to reconsider. I have seen them restore funding to full level many times when you can prove your point.
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    Airpacks are down to the $5300 range. Some at $5000. So much for the increase into 2007 pricing estimates but those don't seem to be as high as expected either.

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    I just got a reduction email today. Scba went from $5,500 to $5,000. Bunker coats reduced to $900 from $950. Also boots from $275 to $250. Total reduction on the grant is $6,275. I need to wait for the remaining quotes to come in before I call to fight the reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMFIRE42 View Post
    I just got a reduction email today. Scba went from $5,500 to $5,000.
    Wow, I wonder how those who applied for > $6,000 for SCBA (expected 2007 pricing) scored?

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