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    Default Any un-paid volunteers here?

    The other thread made me curious. I always assumed all volunteers were unpaid, but as I read it, it seems to be that most are - and some pretty well. So how about it? Any volunteers here........uh..........volunteer?
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    Yep.
    I got a t-shirt and a bumper sticker.

    The only checks I get are for expense re-imbursment.

    We get a pretty nice end of the year party though.

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    Same here on my old department.We were the only ones in the county that I knew of that got gas reimbursement for responding so I never thought a good idea to rub it in.
    We did have a pretty good budget for training and the Chief always made sure to put on a feed for those showing up at training and on calls that lasted longer than the usual 3 hours,rehab consisted of delivery or takeout chow.His philosophy on it was"If I feed them,they will come"which results in large turnouts for calls and training.It's that or we was one dedicated department or both.
    The end result was a department that even with the comments about the other hyphen side of the name,we were able to mix teams smoothly and ride the other rigs with no mix ups when sent to get something off the truck.

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    Yup, 100%. Not only are we fully volunteer, but we even have to pay DUES to be a member! Don't think you can get much more volunteer than that. If being a volunteer without getting or giving anything is dead center, and being a volunteer but getting something in return (stipends, t-shirts, meal money, $3 a call, etc.) is to the right of center...then having to actually PAY to give your time is definitely left of center, which is where we are.

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    I get $0 for answering calls. I get $0 for going to training. I get $0 for being an instructor. I get $0 for clothing allowances.

    But on the good side, IF I make enough fire calls, enough meetings, enough training, each year for the next 20 years....when I turn 60 I can presumably collect $400 per year as "Thanks".

    Believe me, I surely don't do this for the money.
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    $0 for being chief, instructor, investigator, city building inspector, and city emergency manager.

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    Yep, 100% volunteer here. The only thing we get is our county sticker free.
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    Im not paid anything ser se but we do get an occasional Company shirt or jacket. We do get some sort of cumulative retirement benefit based on years of active service. (LOSAP)

    I don't know the details and frankly don't care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42
    But on the good side, IF I make enough fire calls, enough meetings, enough training, each year for the next 20 years....when I turn 60 I can presumably collect $400 per year as "Thanks".
    Oh, I forgot about the LOSAP program. In the interest of full disclosure, our dept participates in a program, so I suppose someone will point out that we are in fact NOT 100% volunteer if we ever receive a single penny over our lifetimes that can be traced back to the fire dept.

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    My company does it for free. One of the only ones left in our county, doin' it since 1890. Well, not us, but we have carried on the tradition. Love of the job, man, love of the job. I saw a shirt the other day @ www.thefirefighterwithin.com that summed it up well. If I could get paid for one thing, however, it would be a dollar for every time I have to hear something stupid from the higher-ups. I'd be rich in no time. Keep on trudging volunteers. Never give up.

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    A few dollars for going to training here.

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    Completely unpaid, and I like it like that.

    Maryland gives us free training for just about everything and I consider that payment in itself.

    It would be nice not to have to pay for uniforms and get some new turnout gear though... I don't think that's gonna happen anytime soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42
    But on the good side, IF I make enough fire calls, enough meetings, enough training, each year for the next 20 years....when I turn 60 I can presumably collect $400 per year as "Thanks".
    Highroller!
    We're not spliting rocket hairs here people!

    Training is like building a pyramid, if you want it to last, you don't built it pointy side down!

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    Same thing down under in the Victoria CFA, ACT RFS and NSW RFS.
    Payment of zip but thats why alot of us are in it. Raise alot of our own operating funds as well. Its called a community.

    Requires specialist treatment from permanent paid staff as they know they know they ain't got you by the balls.
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    100 % volunteer, only left in our county that don't get paid and have people waiting to get on, when depts they pay their guys for runs have trouble finding volunteers. Fully volunteer since 1888 and still going strong.

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    Unpaid, but we do receive points for attending training and calls. Each point is worth $2.75, and we recieve 2 points for structure fires and training, and 1 point for all other calls. It is considered reimbursement for fuel and ruined clothing. Points may be given for other details and work days at Chief's discresion.

    All career people are required to volunteer. If they are working, they do not receive points. The same is true if you are a volunteer working a paid day or relief shift.

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    My volunteer dept is both. It is contracted to the town and to the county seperately. The town pays $15 for any run under 8 hrs duration. The county doesn't.

    It could probably be claimed that a lot of career FFs are sorta volunteer. With many starting salaries in my area in the very low $20k range for 56 hours/wk, most of the guys that get the job could make far, far more in the private sector. So in a sense, there is an element of volunteerism in most any firefighter. Cops, too.

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    All volunteer here. We don't even do LOSAP!!

    We pay for our own t-shirts and gas for responding. We even pay for some of our own training.

    But the thanks we get for getting someones cat out of the tree is priceless
    Just someone trying to help! (And by the way....Thanks for YOUR help!)

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    Only time my dept ever gets money is when we do woods fires that Department of Natural Resources comes too...So for the most part unless its a huge *** fire they stay away so they don't have to dish out coin

    So pretty much 100% vollie here too...In 6 years I've gottan 2 checks for woods fires..lol

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    Default "Paid" volunteer

    We're paid $1 per year, so I guess that makes me a paid volunteer. That's an oxymoron, right?

    The county does provide us uniforms and however many supplies we can get with whatever's left over from $275 after we buy our uniforms and boots. Our uniforms are not very attractive, though, or not on me, so I'd like it better if they didn't give us uniforms. We don't get any gas money or expenses paid, and we have to pay extra for an "E" (emergency) license plate.

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    No payment here other than the occasional t-shirt or hat, meals at meetings and training, and greens fees at the yearly golf tournament if you don't happen to be a member of the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEFIRENUT
    All volunteer here. We don't even do LOSAP!!

    We pay for our own t-shirts and gas for responding. We even pay for some of our own training.

    But the thanks we get for getting someones cat out of the tree is priceless
    Same here. Though we don't do cats from trees...

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    Talking Volly all the way to the bank (if its on fire)

    We at out Dept get no form of money or gifts. That keeps our tax eximpt and true non profit status. Training is provided by the city parish gov. Haz mat training by LSU free of charge if on a LA Dept.


    We truly do it for free!!!

    As for cats in trees any call for help will be answerd.

    You know as well as me if you don't respond for that it will be when
    the kid next door trys to do it himself and falls out of the same tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kldugas412
    We at out Dept get no form of money or gifts. That keeps our tax eximpt and true non profit status. Training is provided by the city parish gov. Haz mat training by LSU free of charge if on a LA Dept.


    We truly do it for free!!!

    As for cats in trees any call for help will be answerd.

    You know as well as me if you don't respond for that it will be when
    the kid next door trys to do it himself and falls out of the same tree.
    One of my guys made the mistake one day of asking the caller "Have you ever seen a cat skeleton in a tree? He'll come down when he's ready." Heard about it for the next two months' council meetings. Apparently that wasn't the response they thought the fire department should make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kldugas412
    As for cats in trees any call for help will be answerd.

    You know as well as me if you don't respond for that it will be when
    the kid next door trys to do it himself and falls out of the same tree.
    Yeah, there's already a thread about "cat in tree" calls. You can search for it if you feel inclined to put your 2 on that topic. Let me sum it up for ya, though: "Bad idea," sayeth the general consensus.

    As to the kid falling out of the tree, we do do medical aid calls.

    Back on-topic: I gave it some further thought and realized that we do get a few benefits and perks, that I suppose would take away the "true volunteer status". See, when the local casino has shows...concerts, cage fights, boxing, whatever, we go out for stand-bys. Since I can sign up to come in and work as part of the stand-by crew, and see the show for free, I suppose this qualifies as a benefit derived from my service.
    Gee shucks, guess I'm not really a true volunteer after all. *LOL*

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