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    Question Halligan or Axe

    I'm not sure if this thread has been done before. But I'm curious to see what you guys think about using a Halligan for breaching a wall versus an axe. Both tools have advantages and disadvantages. I want to hear what you guys(and girls) think.


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    I'm too tired to have this fight again. How about this - bring them both. What, you can only carry one tool?
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    ok good call, where can I find the previous thread so I don't start another dicussion that a whole bunch of people have already replied too?

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    It's too late now! Bottom line? Pick head axe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    It's too late now! Bottom line? Pick head axe.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Pick Head axe is a great 'bashing' tool. I'd prefer this before a halligan if my life was on the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    How about this - bring them both. What, you can only carry one tool?
    Exactly...No reason not to carry both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    It's too late now! Bottom line? Pick head axe.

    Your right...and here are some photos of the best uses for Pick-head axes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFFRED

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    What the heck is the second guy from the left carrying? Looks like a garden instrument...............

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    Thanks guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    It's too late now! Bottom line? Pick head axe.
    I take two axes.. I just don't feel safe enough with just one.

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    Chainsaw. Just because I like gas driven power tools. That and it's less work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clancyxdogg
    What the heck is the second guy from the left carrying? Looks like a garden instrument...............
    That is a brush hook, its what we used for cutting through heavy brush before we got chainsaws. Personally I always thought they looked like they belong in a slasher movie, just looks like a natural for a guy in a hockey mask.

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    The pick head axe is not completly useless, but if you have a flat head and a halligan you can do a lot more.

    Just make sure the tool you grab is the right one for the job/building. I don't want to see my guys going into a tilt slab factory with a 6lb axe, bring the sledge or a maul and don't forget the halligan. You can tell the difference between the guys who bring tools because they have to and the guys who bring the correct tool. Have you ever seen the guy who is told to pull ceiling come in with a closet hook?

    Teach the guys what to bring and why (new guys like the why)

    But back to the topic at hand, The only place I take a 8lb pick head axe is to the roof. I like the halligan for breaching walls, and if you have lath and plaster make a hole with the fork end and slide the tool into the wall, then pull. Very large parts of the wall will come down and you don't risk breaking the handle like you could with an axe. Find the tools of the trade videos, a lot of good info in them.

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    Here's my feeling on this subject:
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    Quote Originally Posted by NonSurfinCaFF
    That is a brush hook, its what we used for cutting through heavy brush before we got chainsaws. Personally I always thought they looked like they belong in a slasher movie, just looks like a natural for a guy in a hockey mask.
    Yeah, definitely an evil looking tool. (Sorry, there just seems to be one of these for every occasion!)

    Thanks for the info.

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    either one...as long as it's not a TNT tool!

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    Talking Thats why you grab the IRON'S

    If you did'nt notice there is an 'S on the end of that. LOL I'm for the multi tool aproach. I would hate to get to a wood frame home just to find a cinder block safe room in the center that we need to get in to from one of the side walls.

    ie; Vic hiding or waiting for help and a ceiling comes down in front of the safe room door.

    Going back to the truck is not an option,for me.
    I'ts better to have and not need than to need and not have

    Flat head axe and Halligan go to gether like bisket's and gravy.
    Or for us vet's Stink on *****

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolleyFF241
    Here's my feeling on this subject:
    So shoot it with a silver bullet.
    I was always taught to bring both.As mentioned before,it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.That's why,as a towboat Mate,I'd always carry a spike pole on the barge when we were tying one up to a dock or a fleet.Yes,the dock lines might be in easy reach,but what if they aren't.
    Same with the tools we need for opening doors,breaking up walls,etc.We might not need the tools to inspect a house full of ceramics and the resident will much prefer we didn't have them on a rookie(me).But if there IS more than just the smell of kool whip bowls melted in the dishwasher involved,you're going to find that you should have had them already.

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    I take my officer as he is a "tool". I pick him up and throw him through the door. No really we have 3 on the line. Nozzlemen (nothing) Officer 6' foot pike pole and Irons man uses a halligan and Flat head axe combo. Some guys use the new #-n-T. (I didnt use a brand name here lol). The Search n Rescue crew have another Axe - halligan kit. They dont use a hose. But that topic was already done.
    Have a good 1

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    Default Halligan

    Born and raised with a halligan in my hand. As a truckie I also bring a six foot roof hook. The other end of the hook has a pry end. Man talk about leverage. It too is rather more versatile than you might think. And I'm not talking about one of those wussy fiberglass jobs. Steel.

    I just get this warm fuzzy feeling inside when I have my halligan in my hand.

    A halligan makes quick work of forcing entry, breaching, popping windows, anchor points, you name it.

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