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    Default Backdraft caught on video

    Not sure if this was ever posted here or not. I found this on You Tube today:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaIilh_7nFI

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    That is awesome...... sending it to billy g....
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    Incredible video. We may see flashovers often, but backdrafts are pretty rare. Anyone have any additional information about this fire?
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    Very good video! Thanks

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    I just took a class with Mike Dugan, Champ (both of FDNY), and Mike Wilson (BC with Charlotte FD) and they had it in their power point presentation. I believe it was said that the video came from a police dash cam in Ohio. I forget the name of the City, maybe Freeport or Freemont. It is an awesome video that I have been able to show to a couple of the classes that I have taught.

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    It says ST J PD on the top of the video and those look like Ohio highway signs. Whatever help that is.
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    Has anyone ever seen the backdraft from PA? I believe it happened in New Brighton (same place as the train derailment a few weeks ago) Our fd has a copy of it on video for some strange reason. BE SAFE

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    Wow, even with knowing the film was a backdraft, all the signs were clearly there. Hope the brothers involved were all ok.

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    Thats certainly not something you see every day. Wow...
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    WOW watched it over and over. showing both the guys on the Ship's Fire Department and and the one I volly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonSmithnotTMD
    It says ST J PD on the top of the video and those look like Ohio highway signs. Whatever help that is.
    Nope; not Ohio signs. Those signs are standard Federal Highway signs. US Route 2 and US Route 5. Route 5 runs North/South while Route 2 runs East/West. The only place these two highways cross is in St. Johnsbury, Vermont. From the directions on the street signs, my guess is that we are seeing a fire that occured on Railroad Street between Eastern Avenue and Portland Street.

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    That was awesome but was that a BACK DRAFT or a SMOKE EXPLOSION. It looked as if it had already vented and they were hitting it and then it went KABOOM. I always thought a Backdraft was caused by a lack of Oxygen and then when it was Inrtroduced it went BOOM? From here it looked as if was rolling pretty good. Doesnt matter.. Glad to see the guys walk away..

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    Anybody know how to save this file to a hard drive? I'd like to use it in a training presentation.

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    Great video you do not see this on a normal bases, and even cooler it was caught on video. the best is for it to be put on the web is awesome. Thats a keeper for the teaching files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldgary
    Anybody know how to save this file to a hard drive? I'd like to use it in a training presentation.
    Try this free program Video Downloader It works with Firefox and lets you save videos from Youtube, Google, and a bunch of other sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAFA62
    That was awesome but was that a BACK DRAFT or a SMOKE EXPLOSION. It looked as if it had already vented and they were hitting it and then it went KABOOM. I always thought a Backdraft was caused by a lack of Oxygen and then when it was Inrtroduced it went BOOM? From here it looked as if was rolling pretty good. Doesnt matter.. Glad to see the guys walk away..
    good point. Maybe a smaller compartment backdraft?

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    WOW thats all i can say This will be shown to all at the STA. to back up the resons for PPE at the scene is a MUST!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFDLT1
    I just took a class with Mike Dugan, Champ (both of FDNY), and Mike Wilson (BC with Charlotte FD) and they had it in their power point presentation. I believe it was said that the video came from a police dash cam in Ohio. I forget the name of the City, maybe Freeport or Freemont. It is an awesome video that I have been able to show to a couple of the classes that I have taught.

    Bro, Champ was just busting my stones with the "Ohio" remark. I can tell you it didn't happen in Fremont. I could ask him if he knows where Dugan got it, but I doubt they even know where they stole it from. Stay safe.

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    Champ said that took place in the 80's in Troy, NY.

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    Default signs you are too bored.

    know how you can tell you are too board? you spend two hours researching this video...

    ok so this is what i have thus far:
    January 27, 1998 is the date. A dash camera has to be correct date (if displayed) or it would be arguementive in the court system.

    The US Route 5 sign is a US route by the shape...
    The Route two sign is NOT a US route (It has a different shape around the number). Given the location of US Route 5, i am going to say that it is a Vermont road marker.

    Also of all the towns that US Route 5 goes through, the only on that has a ST. J PD would be St. Jonesbury Vermont. (see all towns that US RT. 5 intersects at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_5)

    ok I am going to quite playing detective as the wife is demanding the Dog get a bath...
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    Does this video reinforce any lessons on fires such as this?

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    Does this video reinforce any lessons on fires such as this?
    If my eyes are right, the smoke sucking back into the building on the right side of the building, one of the indicators of a backdraft/smoke explosion???

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    I believe Billy G has the video already, we watched it not that long ago in one of his seminars. I believe he said no one was seriously injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamer
    Nope; not Ohio signs. Those signs are standard Federal Highway signs. US Route 2 and US Route 5. Route 5 runs North/South while Route 2 runs East/West. The only place these two highways cross is in St. Johnsbury, Vermont. From the directions on the street signs, my guess is that we are seeing a fire that occured on Railroad Street between Eastern Avenue and Portland Street.

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