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    Just wanted to know what policies other departments have about smoking/chewing inside the station, inside the apparatus, or while on calls. Please also let me know what you do for enforcement of the policy.
    I belong to a volunteer department which does nothing to stop people from smoking/chewing in the building (all parts of the building - during meetings, trainings, dinners, etc.), on the apparatus (to and from calls), and while on scene of a call. There is also a state law that prohibits smoking in public building and lists fire departments as a public building. Most of the time there is at least one person smoking both in the station and on the truck. Sometimes I think our gear smells more of cigerette or cigar smoke than of fire .
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    City ordinance against smoking in public buildings. We have a designated outside smoking area near the back door. Enforced pretty harshly. Put butts in the can or there will be no smoking on the property. Plain and simple.
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    smoking inside of the station, except in the apparatus bay, is not allowed. no smoking whatsoever in the engines. if you are inside the station and want to smoke then you have to go outside. however, chewing, dipping, or any other kind of smokeless tobacco is allowed in the station.

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    Only rule against smoking in my dept is no smoking in the "community hall" we have bingo's etc in and in the upstairs clubroom...Otherwise its all fair game

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    No smoking whatsoever in the station, only outside. Chewing is allowed, barely. Next spit cup that gets spilled is going to take that away.

    I have seen departments locally that ban both "in view of the public and inside department buildings and apparatus."

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    Timmy, how sweet. I didn't know you posted on here! Look forward to a smoke free dept!
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    The state changed the law in 1989 and anyone certified as a firefighter after that date must be tobaco free. For the few that we have that were certified before that date that use, it is not permitted in the buildings (again a state law) or the apparatus (department policy).
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    Our policy is no smoking in the building or apparatus or on scene. We just had a department change this past April where the chief was replaced an all officers were replaced. Before that smoking was allowed everywhere and since then we have banned it, which is the right thing to do (and I am even a smoker). How we get the idea across that it isn't allowed is a pride and ownership issue. Our building's ceilings were smoke stained and apparatus seats were burnt. It wasn't promoting pride in your gear, building and department. Thats how we dealt with it and haven't really had a problem.
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    City policy has prohibited smoking in city vehicles for some time. I believe there has also been a long-standing department policy against members in uniform using tobacco in public view. Most people frowned on smoking inside the station, but a state law made that ban official earlier this year.

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    We are allowed to smoke outside only. No smoking in any buildings or trucks.

    Put butts in the can or there will be no smoking on the property.
    I don't know if my butt would fit in the can, Dickey!
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    Our state has a presumptive cancer bill that covers us on 30 something different forms of cancer. It's a wonderful bill that has helped out a lot of families of firefighters that have died from cancer. As a result of that law anyone who came on the job after ~1989 signed a contract stating that they would not smoke period. What's amazing is that the Union can protect us from pretty much anything - however if someone drops a dime on you for smoking there is nothing they can do. You're finished. Ironically, the guys that are not covered under this bill still smoke with little fear of retribution. I think there's been less than five individuals throughout the whole state that have ever been fired for smoking.

    Our city does not permit smoking on or in any city owned buildings. The reality is that most of our firehouses are ashtrays. Butts are smoked anywhere including the kitchen, apparatus and bunk room. Guys think nothing of dropping butts on the floor after you've just completed housework. A guy who smokes finishes supper before you, he'll light up - no big deal (to him anyway).

    It's absolutely disgusting and no one will do anything about it. Anyway, that's my one big gripe with the job.

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    We have lots of policies - few are followed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastFF
    It's absolutely disgusting and no one will do anything about it. Anyway, that's my one big gripe with the job.
    Your biggest problem is that you are a fireman that doesn't like smoke??? Butch up a little.
    I am a complacent liability to the fire service

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoFF
    Your biggest problem is that you are a fireman that doesn't like smoke??? Butch up a little.
    No, I like my health and I try to keep in shape so I can do my job well and hopefully enjoy retirement someday. We're exposed to enough crap at fires. There's no need to continue killing the guys in the firehouse.

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    Since EMT1050 "Timmy" started this thread and did not share any info on the matter other than to ask for opinions, I will tell you that we are now a tobacco free dept. Just means no use of tobacco products inside the station. Step outside and its all good.

    Thanks all for your input!

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    We passed a city wide ban on smoking inside all buildings (ext. bars, clubs) some time ago. All we have to do is go outside and smoke. You can still chew inside. Dept. policy says no smoking on the trucks. But after a fire most guys light one up. We have no policy on smoking at a scene. I dont smoke, and dont have a problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfpd109 View Post
    Since EMT1050 "Timmy" started this thread and did not share any info on the matter other than to ask for opinions, I will tell you that we are now a tobacco free dept. Just means no use of tobacco products inside the station. Step outside and its all good.

    Thanks all for your input!
    You guys should hear all of the b***ing and moaning that it has created. By God I've heard less whining from my two year old sister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfpd109 View Post
    Since EMT1050 "Timmy" started this thread and did not share any info on the matter other than to ask for opinions, I will tell you that we are now a tobacco free dept. Just means no use of tobacco products inside the station. Step outside and its all good.

    Thanks all for your input!
    Your Chief or administration folded because of a dozen opinions from a bunch of fireman that have nothing to do with your department??

    WOW!??!!

    Hope someone doesn't suggest something truely profound. On here of coarse, evidently our opinions matter. Ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Your Chief or administration folded because of a dozen opinions from a bunch of fireman that have nothing to do with your department??

    WOW!??!!

    Hope someone doesn't suggest something truely profound. On here of coarse, evidently our opinions matter. Ha.
    NO! That aint what happend at all. We just got fed up with having to sit in trainings and meetings and breath in all the smoke. It had gotton really bad right before the ban passed, You could take a breath and actually exhale other peoples smoke. Some of the guys were even smoking in the apperatus on calls, and that just isn't right. There is also a county ordinance that prohibits smoking in public buildings, and our firehouse falls under that ordinance.

    Medic1050 was just asking for other peoples opinions on what their policies are.

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