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    It's kinda hard to tell from the pictures - but are those two intakes on the front or is one a large diameter discharge? Some of the pictures on the other site also show either an intake or large diameter discharge on the rear too.

    I didn't think FDNY used LDH - am I wrong?

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    From what I can see, the front has a intake in the bumper and a discharge above. The right side has a double intake, probably so you can use the full capacity of the 2000 pumps and it can pass a pump test.

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    I'm wondering if that is a "special purpose" engine. 3 "racks" for hard sleeves on the drivers side is not something I think of as normal on FDNY engines.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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    I went to the other web site and know I can see what you were discussing. It sure looks like two big intakes.

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    Exclamation new engines

    I believe that all of the apparatus in this order have the 2000 pumps. That trucks look much bigger then older versions. side sheets are up there with the raised roof.
    Lettering is changed from "FIRE: on rear compartments to "FDNY"
    Should be interesting to see them at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefSquirrel View Post
    It's kinda hard to tell from the pictures - but are those two intakes on the front or is one a large diameter discharge? Some of the pictures on the other site also show either an intake or large diameter discharge on the rear too.

    The right front is a suction, the left front is a discharge, the rear is a discharge.

    I didn't think FDNY used LDH - am I wrong?
    The satellites carry LDH. The only LDH on engines is the 35' length on the front bumper

    A third Hard suction was added, hence the additional tray. They will be getting lightweight PVC suction hose, and the soft suction hydrant connection is increasing in diameter to 4.5inch.
    There is an additional 6" intake on the right side of the pump allowing for two separate suction hoses to be used at draft.
    The additonal pump capacity and emphasis on drafting operations is intertwined with the auxiliary water system being developed (portable water mains and modular pumps).
    The seating configuration has changed with the new cab, and will be different once again on the next batch of rear mounts due to the need to notch the roof.
    The water tank is the same size, the fuel tank is bigger, which resulted in the loss of the tailboard compartment. Sleeves for scba cylinders were added to the wheel wells. a rear MDT screen will be mounted facing the rear, upper rear brake and turn signals were added below the warning lights and a storage box was added to the cab roof. Lots of little changes. There will be 69 of these and one high pressure pumper for E8. This rig is going to the Rock, the next one to engine ___ well you'll see...

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    HOLY SH*T!!

    I'm going to need to special call a truckie to get to that top section of hose!(and I'm an above average height Engineman) Thank god it is rare when we use it!

    I'm curious at the purpose of having that raised roof thing...reminds me of L49 and L4s old rigs in the early 90s. What purpose does that serve?

    Also I noted the siamese on the officers side intake has the front one labled for Drafting purposes only...this is going to be tough in many cases in hooking up to a hydrant that is infront of the intake.

    I'm sure I'll get some edumacation on this MOFO in the comming months.

    Although I'm skeptical about some features...we'll see how it all plays out. I have a feeling though some aspects of this rig will be going the way of the hotstick torpedo tube in the future.

    Good work jfTL41, I hope all the hard work pays off for us.

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    PS-I do like the MDT screen in the rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFFRED View Post
    HOLY SH*T!!

    I'm going to need to special call a truckie to get to that top section of hose!(and I'm an above average height Engineman) Thank god it is rare when we use it!

    I'm curious at the purpose of having that raised roof thing...reminds me of L49 and L4s old rigs in the early 90s. What purpose does that serve?

    Also I noted the siamese on the officers side intake has the front one labled for Drafting purposes only...this is going to be tough in many cases in hooking up to a hydrant that is infront of the intake.

    I'm sure I'll get some edumacation on this MOFO in the comming months.

    Although I'm skeptical about some features...we'll see how it all plays out. I have a feeling though some aspects of this rig will be going the way of the hotstick torpedo tube in the future.

    Good work jfTL41, I hope all the hard work pays off for us.

    FTM-PTB

    PS-I do like the MDT screen in the rear.
    THe MDT screen in the rear sounds great! However, why all the hard suction? When was the last time a company used it? Couldn't you just carry it on Sat. units? 72 Engine, ect. ect.

    It'll be interesting to see what little tweaks and changes are made once the men get their hands on the rig.

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    Any word on how many units will be delivered in '08??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFFRED View Post
    I'm curious at the purpose of having that raised roof thing...reminds me of L49 and L4s old rigs in the early 90s. What purpose does that serve?
    Hang with me on this one Fred.......it raises the roof.

    On a serious note, the most advantageous thing about it that it provides full height doors allowing most people to be able to exit the rig without doing so in a bent over or crouching position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Hang with me on this one Fred.......it raises the roof.

    On a serious note, the most advantageous thing about it that it provides full height doors allowing most people to be able to exit the rig without doing so in a bent over or crouching position.

    Good answer :-)

    But I think FFFRED is talking about the old raised roof ladder companies, here is a pic of the old L-49


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    Hey all! Long time lurker, first time poster lol!

    Anyway, I like the rig though I'm not a fan of the LED / rotator mix light bars...but that may be an OCD thing on my part. I also don't like how high the hard suction is but it's not really used every day. I do like the raised cab, the new seating arrangement, and the MDT screen in the back. I'm sure this will keep the FDNY brothers safe regardless of looks!

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    Ladies and Gentlmen....

    There is a new video of a new FDNY pumper responding to a call

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqg_06xUNk

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    I actually live by the company who sells FDNY their apparatus. Some unique things on the truck as i got to see the first one to come in from the factory because some of my friends work for seagrave. There is LDH discharges on the front and rear of the truck for narrow ally ways where it would be a hassle to bring the hose to the side. The large valve on the officer side is so the truck can reach capacity off one side of the truck. The trucks were all ordered the same but as they find out things from the ones they have in service already they change the next batch to come in one of the first things was the back lightbars were the same bars as on the front cab with the LED and rotator on a long pole. They brought the truck to a couple of the old firehouses and found out that the added height of the lightbar when backin in on an incline didnt allow the truck to get in the building. Thus they changed to the smaller all LED bars. The hard suction is on all the engines and from what im told i could be wrong is they actually draft the hydrants in the city, and from what im told also they carry diff kinds of hard suction. If there are any more specific questions I'd be happy to try and answer if i know all in all a very sharp and functionable truck.

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    Post New FDNY Engines

    A few weeks back Seagrave Sales & Service had FDNY engine #88 on display down in Wildwood, N.J., the rig has a very short wheelbase, 2000 gpm pump, high side compartments on the right, 4 hard suction hoses on the drivers side, spilt tilt cab, led lighting, etc!

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    Anyone know why the new design deleted the rear discharges? Seemed to make sense for how they stretch their hand lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halligan84 View Post
    Anyone know why the new design deleted the rear discharges? Seemed to make sense for how they stretch their hand lines.
    Huh? Look at the photos. Most engines where I have worked hook up on the pump panel, it is not all that common to use the rear discharge for handlines.

    As for the hard suctions and drafting connections, it is what it is, this came down from a much higher pay grade and is part of the plan for the auxilliary water system (think San Francisco Pipeline system...).

    As with anything in the fire service that involves change, there will be complainers and supporters, we did our best to help make the rigs as user friendly as possible, only time will tell. As with any committee, compromises were made, some things I like, others I would have done differently. Overall the rigs turned out as planned and the engines turned out good.

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    Any word on whos building the new Rescue Rigs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dano8696 View Post
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    Any word on whos building the new Rescue Rigs?
    Nobody... they have not gone out to bid yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dano8696 View Post
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    Any word on whos building the new Rescue Rigs?
    Look for Seagrave to build the new rescues.
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    Ray,what's with the angled corners on the beavertail? I'm thinking that ain't a bad idea. T.c.

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