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    I don't know if this has been brought up before, but we are in the throws of a mutiny on the subject. How do you rule on the guys caring and using cells while on duty. Right now we are not aloud to carry them while on duty. They have to stay in our bags while on shift. How is anybody else work with these new problems?


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    Quote Originally Posted by stonecold16 View Post
    I don't know if this has been brought up before, but we are in the throws of a mutiny on the subject. How do you rule on the guys caring and using cells while on duty. Right now we are not aloud to carry them while on duty. They have to stay in our bags while on shift. How is anybody else work with these new problems?
    In the past, the carrying and use of cell phones while on duty was prohibited.

    Within the last year and a half, with a change in administration, the carrying and use of cell phones is now allowed.

    They are not to be used while responding to, or on the scene of a call, unless it is for incident related business. Otherwise, they can now be used while on duty.




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    We can use ours while we're at the st. but if we go out for any reason they stay at the st. simple as that.

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    Wouldn't you want to take it out inspecting or going to the store to use if you needed it. Instead of tying up the radio to call back to ask questions. There are benefits to having your cell instead of just gabbing on it all the time.

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    Thats way different than us, our station provieds nextels for the line officers, and the chief engineer and we can use our phones when ever pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NuclearDoctor View Post
    Thats way different than us, our station provieds nextels for the line officers, and the chief engineer and we can use our phones when ever pretty much.
    Same here. I'm expected to have it with me on calls!
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    Personal phones ought to be allowed, but the ringer should be silenced (so it can be subtly ignored if it rings while you're on a job). They are a great security blanket when things go south.

    When not on a job, the rules for personal phone calls on the department phone should be extended to cell phones to keep the occasional nutjob from talking for hours with his girlfriend instead of meeting his obligations in the house.

    Department issued cell phones for officers are common in the places I've worked, and you are expected to carry them at all times.

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    No rules at our dept. except we are not supposed to be using them while driving. Of course the BC's are often on the phone while driving.

    Nothing like have your wife call right in the middle of doing CPR.


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    As far as I know there are no regulations about using our cell phones while on duty. Course in my opinion using them while driving is not very safe, it is still done.

    As for me personally, about the only person who calls me, is my wife while I am at the station and she calls the station direct. I don't carry my cell phone with me and she very rarely calls.

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    I remember when our dept. got its first cellphone. ( 1982). It was the size and weight of a 12 v. battery,and was carried on the command unit.The poor chiefs driver was stuck packing that brute around at a fire. I'm not sure if our dept. has a policy on the books regarding personnel cellphones,but if there is,it isn't enforced. Everyone uses common sense when using their cell ,restricting their calls to family matters,Not how many yards of concrete to order, for tommorows side job. I remember only one inappropiate time that a crew member of mine,used his cell to text the ladder rider back at the station, to put his slurpee in the freezer, as he was tied up at a medical emergency performing cpr. My only gripe was he composed the message and texted it, during his third pulse check. For those out there that are not permitted to carry your precious phone on duty,don't swet it,every rig carries a cell, making it possible to recieve any urgent messages from home. Years ago before all the trucks had cells, it wasn't unusual to see the occassional bro,with a pager on his hip,which meant only one thing- the brother was soon to become a father.

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    My experiences have been based on common sense. No cell phone usage in the truck or at the scene. Limited usage during "day hours" (till 5pm). Vibrating ringers used during trainings/meetings. We had some that tried to push the day hours uasge (yappin while everyone else trained/cleaned/etc) but they usually heard it from the rest of the crew before admin jumped their sh*t.
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    i know of a few stations here who are very very carefuly about any electronics. If they get called to a fumes call or a gas call, as soon as they get there (if its confirmed to be gas in a house or a closed place), all protables, cells phones, pagers, all electronics go off execpt for the chiefs mobile. And they send the crews inside if needed to turn off the gas if they can. So they just play it safe.

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    I told my crew to have their cells in the vibrate mode all shift. And no talking on the cell during a call or on the unit. I had an engineer who thought it was okay to yak while driving.

    I have a pretty mature group so if we are in training or something department related they are good about letting a call go to voice mail or answering to tell the caller they will call back when convenient.

    Its worked so far.
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    ive been told by my crew chief you can have your phone on you if your in the bus keep it on vibe and dont use it on a call unless your call a hospital,dispatch. for some unk communication glitch ie- radio tower being down or a main server going down very very rare instances though

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    I try to remember to grab my cell phone when I leave the house for a call (not the same as being "on duty", but you get the idea.) Especially fire calls, because occasionally I've needed one on the scene and had to bum one off someone else. In particular I've needed it a few times when I needed to call in an arson investigator (I'd rather talk to him directly and tell him what I've got than rely on our dispatchers to relay the info).

    It's good to have a phone with you as a secondary means of communications...never can tell when you'll have info that's sensitive/confidential or just too lengthy for radio.

    Agreed, though, it should be in silent mode, and personal calls should be discreetly ignored....most cell phones have missed call I.D. or even voice mail, you can call them back (actually, that's good advice for many day-to-day situations, not just emergency scenes )
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    this reminds me of the last generation talking about the "issue" of getting cable TV or land-line telephones or portable radios.

    We need to embrace the "new," cellular phone technology. It makes our jobs easier, allows for more private conversation, and lets my wife get ahold of me if something comes up (ugh!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    this reminds me of the last generation talking about the "issue" of getting cable TV or land-line telephones or portable radios.

    We need to embrace the "new," cellular phone technology. It makes our jobs easier, allows for more private conversation, and lets my wife get ahold of me if something comes up (ugh!)
    Not comparable. The first example doesn't affect the scene, nor does the second. If you were around pre-telephone, I'm impressed you're on the internet at all. Portable radios aren't personally owned; they're part of our tactics. The professional use of cell phones is obviously useful.

    I don't see a problem with cell phones going on an apparatus, but when they start ringing on scene, it's ridiculous.

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    Default Thanks for the info.

    I copied all your replies and printed them off for the chief I will let you know what happens .

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    A personal cell phone belongs in your locker or locked in your car. You are at work, and while at work that is what you should be doing.
    We have nothing in writing about cell phone use in the station. I have seen, not from my guys, a guy answer a phone during a call. This is not acceptable.
    First it is rude, second your mind should be on the call, and lastly you can drop, break, loose or whatever your phone.
    Give your wife the station's number, then tell her to use it only in an emergency or after 1700 and before 2100.
    If you can't go 30 minutes without talking to your sweetums then get a job working out of your house. It is no different then the guy taking a smoke break every hour, the other guys have to pick up the slack for you while you are off talking to who ever.
    Not everyone runs 10 calls a day, we do have some down time, but for the same reason you meet on the floor 1st thing in the AM, you should leave the phone in the locker on vibrate.

    Oh, and we meet on the floor first thing in the AM so the officer can see if everyone is alright and we are ready to work. I also think at that time you should have a quick tailboard drill, it gets everyone on the same page and the firefighters know that they are at the firehouse. It isn't another day building houses, or fixing pipes or whatever you do on your day off. Your at the firehouse and part of a team with your brothers there depending on you for their lives.

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    Simple answer to a simple question. We do not have a policy on cell phone use. Most of us have Nextels, and we use them for official business as much as for our own use. Since they are our personal phones, and we're paying the bill, the department is saving a lot of bucks. End of story.
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