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    Knife? That might still have given him a fighting chance. He showed up at the gun fight hog tied, and strapped to post with a bullseye hanging around his neck.

    Trotter, in the IC command system, the overall incident commander may not be the fire chief, or a firefighter. However, he damn well will have a fire department representitive with him (someone like, oh, the chief), who will tell him how and when to deploy what resources, and what everyone is capable of. The Chief will also be who the FD resources are reporting too, and the chief will then report to the incident commander on the progress of fire operations. So essentially, the chief or other officer, is still in charge of the FD, just not the whole incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Did you ever see someone show up at a gun fight with a knife so many times?
    ...and a rubber bladed butter knife at that!
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    So far the posts have proven him to be

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    Just my view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    ...and a rubber bladed butter knife at that!
    Actually, it was more like a spork...
    My opinions might coincide with someone of importance's POV... I wouldn't know, since I never bothered to ask. My policy is: "Don't ask, don't care."

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    If you are in second grade and get to be the line-leader to lunch are you the incident commander???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    If you are in second grade and get to be the line-leader to lunch are you the incident commander???
    No that would be the Hall monitor. He has nothing to do with lunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry4184 View Post
    Knife? That might still have given him a fighting chance. He showed up at the gun fight hog tied, and strapped to post with a bullseye hanging around his neck.

    Trotter, in the IC command system, the overall incident commander may not be the fire chief, or a firefighter. However, he damn well will have a fire department representitive with him (someone like, oh, the chief), who will tell him how and when to deploy what resources, and what everyone is capable of. The Chief will also be who the FD resources are reporting too, and the chief will then report to the incident commander on the progress of fire operations. So essentially, the chief or other officer, is still in charge of the FD, just not the whole incident.
    Please. He posted that he has the "safety officer, officer, NIMS" yada yada qualifications.

    You are forcing him to tell you how your logical and informed approach to Incident Command is wrong. To prove how right he is about Incident Command you are forcing him to post a link on the study of mad cow disease in cattle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Did you ever see someone show up at a gun fight with a knife so many times?
    Good question, why does he keep showing up with a knife??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerry4184 View Post
    Knife? That might still have given him a fighting chance. He showed up at the gun fight hog tied, and strapped to post with a bullseye hanging around his neck.

    Trotter, in the IC command system, the overall incident commander may not be the fire chief, or a firefighter. However, he damn well will have a fire department representitive with him (someone like, oh, the chief), who will tell him how and when to deploy what resources, and what everyone is capable of. The Chief will also be who the FD resources are reporting too, and the chief will then report to the incident commander on the progress of fire operations. So essentially, the chief or other officer, is still in charge of the FD, just not the whole incident.
    The original statement was "The IC does not have to be a chief, and may not even be a fire fighter." For some strange reason, one that I don't understand, a few on here wanted to allow citizens off the street to have control of the incident.

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    I s this thread still going? Or did it fly off in some other unrelated topic zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Good question, why does he keep showing up with a knife??

    The "he" in your question is you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    The "he" in your question is you.

    My four year old could have figured that out.
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