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    Question SCBAs opinions/INFO

    Was wanting to get some peoples experiences(good or bad) w/using Pioneer SCBAs they were once made by Cairns I believe but are under a new company as of now-and was wondering if the bugs are worked out. Also on the ISI Viking DLX.

    I was needing to know about any problems, maintenance issues, service?? ect... any and all help is appreciated.

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    They were junk when we had them. Porrly designed. Do a search on Pioneer SCBA or Cairns SCBA you will find a few other threads.

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    Pioneer SCBA had a very difficult time in getting the last NFPA change (1851-2002) and nearly went under. Most of the dealer support went as well. I know their national sales manager and feel he won't be there long.

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    I have used the ISI Viking DXL I would have to say it is the most comfortable fitting SCBA I have ever worn. The only problem I have ever heard of is the batteries, but that is a problem with all of the SCBA's. The good thing is the ISI uses only 1 type of batteries and they are AA's. They are easy to breath and they mask has a Great view and only has 2 straps to pull.
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    Thumbs up Thanks guys keep em coming!

    I appreciate the responses everyone, I figure in my research this would be a good site for no BS info.

    I was right.

    Keep the info coming though, Thankyou to everyone

    Jason

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    I'm on two departments. On one, we use the ISI Viking DXL. The best thing about these packs is they can be hooked up and ready to go. The mask has an ambient air valve that lets the user have the mask on and all hooked up and ready for tank air with the push of a button. The only downfall I see is the masks fog up like you wouldn't believe. That may be just our masks though.
    On the other department, we use MSA packs. I love these packs. They are easy to use, never fog up and have some neat features built into the PASS. With the push of a button, you can figure out roughly how much time in minutes you have left before the low air alarm goes off. The PASS is pretty distinctive sounding too. Either way you go, they are both excellent choices.

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    Our department just received some Interspiro packs from another department. I used one the other night at a house fire, and the mask on it just kept fogging up. I would have to go back on air just to keep the mask clear. I think it just had a lot to do with the cool air out that evening. I use to have problems with the Old MSA and Scott packs fogging up. The department I was with that had the ISI packs, I never noticed them fogging up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gatoremt View Post
    Our department just received some Interspiro packs from another department. I used one the other night at a house fire, and the mask on it just kept fogging up. I would have to go back on air just to keep the mask clear. I think it just had a lot to do with the cool air out that evening. I use to have problems with the Old MSA and Scott packs fogging up. The department I was with that had the ISI packs, I never noticed them fogging up.
    Did you guys get the Interspiro's from us?

    If so...I'm sorry!




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    Neighboring Dept had Pioneers.Cairns dropped them and the dealer network.As far as I've been able to determine there is only ONE place in the USA servicing them.I personally would RUN not walk away from these packs if for no reason other than the very limited service.Try a search,you'll dig up a lot of good info.Remember,who will service you AFTER the sale should be a big factor in pack selection. Good luck,T.C.

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