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    Quote Originally Posted by dalittle View Post
    Ok, here goes.

    Mike, if you are talking about the Sabre Contour SCBA, the one that I believe was the one in production at the time of the Bullard/Sabre JV, I believe the Contour had the same pneumatics as the older Magnum but had a dual curvature mask and updates to the backframe and electronics. It was never marketed in the US.

    That would be the one, nice SCBA to bad that it never made it into US distribution.


    Mike, you never said I could not respond to the trivia so here goes:

    1. Who was the first Dept / Agency to use a TI in firefighting in the US?
    FDNY – followed by Overland Park Kansas? Is that right Mike?

    That one I believe is disputed. FDNY would have to be in there, from there you might also have to include:
    - US Forest Service
    - Depts that Larry Stevens worked with
    - Depts that David Kearney / Raytheon worked with

    Those all go back into the 70's and 80's, well before the mid 90's boom. Funny that the "Amereica Burning Study" published in 1973 talked about Thermal Imaging.


    2. What “Cooled System TI” was first used by US Fire Service Personnel?
    Cooled? No idea.

    To the best of my knowledge it was the Hughes "Probeye"

    I almost fell over when I found out there are actually two up for sale on ebay right now.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/PROBEYE-IFNRARED...QQcmdZViewItem

    There is also an original Argus TI up for sale
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Thermal-Imaging-...QQcmdZViewItem


    3. How many different TI Models have been offered in the US to Fire Service Personnel?

    Good God!
    Is it 43 cameras in total?

    The number I came up with was 45 (you got the majority, there are a few more name/model variations), can you believe there has been that many TIs made!

    Thanks for the exchange David, see you at FDIC in a couple of weeks!
    I hope everyone who is using a TI can appreciate where we have come from. Hopefully we can continue the progress.

    Thanks again!
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    My engine still has the last of our original Argus 1 cameras, just like the one on eBay. We have 1 Argus 2-looks the same but different display/optics- and 3 of the new Argus right angle style cameras. The dept didn't bother to look around after the first on died, they just kept buying ones with the same name.

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    Default Problems with CairnsIRIS thermal camera and helmet.

    I am currently with Australian Bush Fire Brigade and have had donated a CairnsIRIS thermal camera and helmet.

    However the unit displays a very static image.
    High heat objects are barely visible.
    The display is very unclear.

    Is this a problem with the image sensor?
    Has it been overexposed (burnt in)?
    What would the cost of a replacement sensor be?

    Your prompt reply and advise would be appreciated

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    It could be a sensor problem, or it could just be the limits of quality of that paticular sensor, or a host of electronic gadgets in between. ISG (www.isgfire.com) has offered in the past to estimate repairs on older units, even those not made by them, but if this is a sensor issue, I think this might be beyond their resources. Dave L. can answer more if he reads this in time.

    Frankly, with the costs of thermal imagers dropping to the USD 6500-8500 range, you'd probably be better off buying a new, inexpensive imager rather than spending a small fortunate repairing your antique.
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    i am looking for manuals and shematics for the eev p4428 thermal camera that was used in firefighting. any information would be helpful. thank you

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    1. Who was the first Dept / Agency to use a TI in firefighting in the US?
    FDNY – followed by Overland Park Kansas? Is that right Mike?

    That one I believe is disputed. FDNY would have to be in there, from there you might also have to include:
    - US Forest Service
    - Depts that Larry Stevens worked with
    - Depts that David Kearney / Raytheon worked with

    Those all go back into the 70's and 80's, well before the mid 90's boom. Funny that the "Amereica Burning Study" published in 1973 talked about Thermal Imaging.
    In the late 80's, 88 or 89 my US Navy Ship got our first Thermal Imaging Camera. Saved my butt on one fire in the evaporator room. Didn't have bunker gear or SCBA's (old OBA's still), but we had a TIC. LOL

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