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    Default possibly the worst firefighter in the world

    This firefighter may just very well be the worst in the world

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPNrnisAo6c
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    When I looked at this video, all I could think of was this quote from a grossly uninformed FF on the "Not Everybody Learned from Lairdsville thread:

    I know people will say I am wrong, and that I'm an idiot, but in a real fire, do you ever have flammable liquids? or situation that are way too hot? or the walls burning? or furniture? or (gasp!!) live victims?


    This is EXACTLY why you don't use flammable liquids or live victims. Because you never know what is going to go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    This is EXACTLY why you don't use flammable liquids or live victims. Because you never know what is going to go wrong.
    Also never forget a pumper.One horror story I heard of was a LT taking three rookies into a burn house with only a 2" line hooked to a hydrant.No one outside,no engine on scene.
    As George said,you never know what's going to go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    Also never forget a pumper.One horror story I heard of was a LT taking three rookies into a burn house with only a 2" line hooked to a hydrant.No one outside,no engine on scene.
    As George said,you never know what's going to go wrong.
    I understand your point, but it wouldn't matter to me if there was an entire first alarm assignment parked outside. You don't use flammable liquids and you don't use live victims-EVER!

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    I thought it was a drill on PPV!



    .......just kidding for you thin skinned ones out there.

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    And we are supposed to have more fire-sense than the general public. You're exactly right George, one more reason we don't need to be using flammable liquids. No matter how much safety equipment and/or apparatus is there, something can go wrong. When things go wrong in a profession where lives are at risk, that's exactly what can be lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    When I looked at this video, all I could think of was this quote from a grossly uninformed FF on the "Not Everybody Learned from Lairdsville thread:

    I know people will say I am wrong, and that I'm an idiot, but in a real fire, do you ever have flammable liquids? or situation that are way too hot? or the walls burning? or furniture? or (gasp!!) live victims?


    This is EXACTLY why you don't use flammable liquids or live victims. Because you never know what is going to go wrong.

    Someone really said that? I am on my way to that thread now in hopes your exaggerating! ( well one can hope right?)
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    Damn talk about flame thrower.


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    WOW!

    It also shows that even with the best training in the world, when confronted with a situation like that, we can still panic, still get it wrong and possibly cause more problems....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSTONER View Post
    Someone really said that? I am on my way to that thread now in hopes your exaggerating! ( well one can hope right?)
    actually, that quote was taken out of context, something that George is well known for doing. but we won't go there.

    and that guy who is lighting the fires is an idiot.
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    I fully agree with the live victim/fuels argument in enclosed structures, but are you saying in fire extinguisher burn props that we shouldn't use flammable liquids as well?

    I'm not trying to start anything, but we're very safe about it - light with an 8 foot pole, diesel/gasoline mix, etc...
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    I watched and I shook my head. Just glad that (apparently) no one was injured during the making of this fiasco.

    I kinda gotta wonder if that guy is still on active duty?

    AND. There is still no solid reason/rationale given as to why we need to use liquid accelerants when a propane torch and a few pallets/bails of straw wont match or exceed for effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSTONER View Post
    Someone really said that? I am on my way to that thread now in hopes your exaggerating! ( well one can hope right?)
    Someone defintely said that. And it was NOT taken out of context. Parasite is famous for writing stupid things, then claiming his posts were taken out of context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    I fully agree with the live victim/fuels argument in enclosed structures, but are you saying in fire extinguisher burn props that we shouldn't use flammable liquids as well?, etc...
    Of course not. My point was that the video vividly displays how quickly something can go wrong when you are using even a small amount of flammable liquid. This was in direct reference to another thread where a person did not see why flammable liquids could ot be used in acquired structure training.

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    Paper feed sacks (I'm a country boy) and broken pallets do just fine to start a fire. All it takes is a match to get it going.
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    I hope they weren't showing off to get more funding. Oh, I get it they want more money for training, ya that's it.

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    Wow.

    Glad I'm not in Spain or wherever the hell that was.

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    That was taped in Turkey.

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