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    Default MVA Responsibilities

    For those of you who do not provide EMS, what are your responsibilites on Motor vehicle accidents?


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    Quote Originally Posted by firemanaaron View Post
    For those of you who do not provide EMS, what are your responsibilites on Motor vehicle accidents?
    1) Scene / Life Safety. Including traffic if needed so EVERYONE goes home.

    2) Fire Suppression.

    3) Fluid control

    4) Assist EMS

    5) Assist LEO's

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    1 scene safety

    2 immeadiate life threat

    3. extracation / fire suppression

    4. assist ems

    5. control leaking fluids

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    control leaks, stabilization, extrication, ems support, safety, damage checks, etc.

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    Life Safety
    Incident Stabilization
    Property Conservation
    Salvage and Overhaul

    Even though this mainly fits a fire scene, 3 or the 4 can apply to an MVA as well. Basic FFI stuff.

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    1. scene size up
    2. fire suppression
    3. control leaks
    4. assist rescue and ambulance in extrication and patient care
    we have first responders and emt's who help the ambulance. those not ems help rescue and maintain scene safety.
    police handle traffic

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    Annoying the state police

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    Extrication
    fire suppresion
    helicopter landing zone
    traffic control
    assist ems, lifting, other
    scene safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocVBFDE14 View Post
    Annoying the state police
    I think that is a given. Great post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinFFVFD View Post
    police handle traffic
    I was only on a volunteer department for 3 years and the cops in Kentucky never handled traffic from what I saw.They were too busy running out measuring tapes,taking pictures and writing tickets for whoever was at fault.
    Those in blue rookie FD helmets were waving traffic around.If it were a big highway blocker,county Department of Emergency Services would bring barricades and an arrow sign so even the most avid cellphone user would get the idea.
    We did have a good relationship with KSP and the county SO.On the highway,FD did all the above mentioned jobs-firesuppression,stabilizing the wreck,extrication,EMS,etc.It was only when a suburb PD heading home in his patrol car that happened on scene and thought he was in charge no matter what that we had troubles.
    Last edited by doughesson; 02-13-2007 at 01:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doughesson View Post
    I was only on a volunteer department for 3 years and the cops in Kentucky never handled traffic from what I saw.They were too busy running out measuring tapes,taking pictures and writing tickets for whoever was at fault.
    Those in blue rookie FD helmets were waving traffic around.If it were a big highway blocker,county Department of Emergency Services would bring barricades and an arrow sign so even the most avid cellphone user would get the idea.
    We did have a good relationship with KSP and the county SO.On the highway,FD did all the above mentioned jobs-firesuppression,stabilizing the wreck,extrication,EMS,etc.It was only when a suburb PD heading home in his patrol car that happened on scene and thought he was in charge no matter what that we had troubles.
    well it is different everywhere you go. we have a policy on how many firefighters and ems personnel respond to MVC's. so when you dont have many fire personnel there to start with we dont tie them up with traffic. however, if we do happen to have extra fire personnel on scene we will use them for traffic. besides that the PD handles it then they do their investigation if they have to.

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    Since every FD has practically the same responsibilities at all MVAs, Im thinking the question in the first post was more of a "Do you have assigned roles for each crew member at an MVA?" question than a general "What does your FD do at a wreck?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFW333 View Post
    Since every FD has practically the same responsibilities at all MVAs, Im thinking the question in the first post was more of a "Do you have assigned roles for each crew member at an MVA?" question than a general "What does your FD do at a wreck?"
    well to answer that question, since my department is volunteer, meaning you never know really which firefighters will be on scene, we do not really have "assigned" positions. when en-route we will determine who is responsible for what, and by the time we get on scene we know who is responsible for what.

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    As a volunteer, we've pretty much assigned responsibilities enroute, BUT we are trying to develop a set of SOPs assigning responsibilities per seat assignment. The major problem there is not knowing how many will show up. We might run one MVA with a full crew of five in the engine and the next MVA have only three.

    Our major responsibilities are life safety/scene stability (including traffic control), extrication/fire suppression, fluid spills, and assist EMS. At night, we also provide lights for the investigation and cleanup

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    Default MVA Responsibilities

    My department does the follwoing:
    1. Scene size up
    2. Establish safe working area
    3. Stabilization and extrication
    4. Fire suppression
    5. Fluid control
    6. Assist EMS (First Responders w/ department)

    --we leave traffic control to the police and/or county fire police--

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    Talking Pre assigned tasks

    If your a volunteer why cant you have pre assigned tasks? My vol. dept. does. Strangely, my career dept. doesn't currently have pre assigned tasks at MVCs we get it done anyway, and are working on them. In an answer to the original question. First Eng. Stabilize/patient care 2nd Eng. has suppression. Rescue/eng has extrication. First Eng. Blocks upstream, second downstream. Rescue in the shadow. Of course, this doesn't always work but I think we can all agree that we have no black and white in the fire service. Kisses kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocVBFDE14 View Post
    Annoying the state police
    Yeah, they really don't like when we have to shut down lanes. They don't seem to care about safety, as long as I-95 is open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LADDER2EKU View Post
    Yeah, they really don't like when we have to shut down lanes. They don't seem to care about safety, as long as I-95 is open.
    The Ohio State Highway Patrol has a reputation for great relationships with Fire/EMS agencies from all over the state. While they do not like to have a highway shut down, they understand that responder safety is paramount.

    I can speak from experience as I know the FD very well and know the OSHP pretty well also.
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    Our dept provides scene safety,extrication,clean up,traffic control(if the RCMP aren't going to do it which is most of the time),helo LZ if required. On top of that we assist the Paramedics with whatever they need.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    Same as above posters, but also provide a driver for the EMS unit if both (Medic and EMT) are needed in the back with the patient(s). FF's are trained for this and follow EMS proticals. The sheriff department has actually called us out (Non-Emergency) to assist with traffic control.

    T.J.

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