Any discussion or experience about the advantages one way or the other for Red or Clear lenses used in your MARS 888?
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02-07-2007, 11:51 AM #1Forum Member
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MARS 888 (Red or Clear)
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02-07-2007, 03:07 PM #2Border Patrol
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Not sure how this topic fits in with fireground tactics but we have one of each on one of our engines. They both seem to work just fine.
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02-08-2007, 09:20 AM #3
Red, Clear, fat women.......they all look good if you like them.
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02-08-2007, 10:23 AM #4
Mars 888 Light
Depends on what state you are in! You don't indicate that.
All states have different rules regarding lights on fire apparatus, be they white, red, blue, amber or whatever.
A clear lens with a high wattage seal beam on a Mars 888 light will moved traffic better than one with a red lens. Having said that, I would see if I could find the most wattage seal beam that will fit in the housing and go with that.
At any case check on the states motor vehicle rules regarding fire apparatus. You may be surprized as what that says.
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02-08-2007, 03:07 PM #5MembersZone Subscriber
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Clear lens
We run a clear lens with either a white or red bulb depending on what is available or who happens to change it. Like most lights, its just another tool and does little in the big picture.
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02-08-2007, 03:19 PM #6
What's a MARS 888?
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02-08-2007, 03:34 PM #7Forum Member
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I think you can learn about them in the Volunteer Corner. Also try searching Wacker or Whacker depending on what part of the country you are in.
I'd be more concerned with the reliability and functionality of your apparatus versus the bells and whistles. I have never seen a MARS 888 put out a fire or a chrome wheel cover make a rescue.
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02-08-2007, 03:40 PM #8
lexfd5, at least you have seen one, I never even heard of it! But if they are in the same category as wasting money on chrome wheel covers, then we don't need them either.
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02-08-2007, 04:23 PM #9Forum Member
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Guess you are like us. The lowest bid that meets the minimum requirements wins. Plus it's hard to keep all that chrome clean when you are making runs and not doing the parade thing.
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02-08-2007, 09:06 PM #10
Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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02-08-2007, 09:40 PM #11Forum Member
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Not saying they do not work. Just do not think they are that important. I would be more concerned with the rest of the truck. I have made runs, as have many others here, with a single bubble light and two alternating flashers in the front grille. IMHO I got through traffic about the same then as I do today.
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02-08-2007, 09:44 PM #12
I understand where you are coming from. I agree that you can respond without them with no problem. They are merely just another option.
Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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02-09-2007, 06:45 PM #13
for my Minnesota man ...............
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I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
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02-09-2007, 11:01 PM #14Forum Member
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Not a Mars, not a good picture...but...

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That was our water supply Engine when I first joined. Didn't have the lightbar or anything else on the roof when I joined -- just the combination figure-8 light and siren on the hood. Couple incandescent flashers on the rear. That was it.
Back in the day, they weren't just pieces of chrome.Last edited by Dalmatian190; 02-09-2007 at 11:05 PM.
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02-10-2007, 07:08 AM #15
write to Google ...............
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I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
"but I guarentee you I will FF your arse off" from>
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02-10-2007, 10:42 AM #16MembersZone Subscriber
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02-10-2007, 11:17 AM #17
IMHO, clear is more attention grabbing. Both red and clear work well. I miss the old 888. We only have one left, and thats on the back-up to the back-up.
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02-10-2007, 11:45 AM #18IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT !
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I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
"but I guarentee you I will FF your arse off" from>
http://www.firehouse.com/forums/show...60#post1137060post 115
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02-10-2007, 09:40 PM #19Border Patrol
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Josh, I think Dal was saying it wasn't a Mars light on their old engine, not that your pic wasn't one...
(and I'm still wondering what this thread has to do with fireground tactics )
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02-11-2007, 04:25 PM #20The comments made by me are my opinions only. They DO NOT reflect the opinions of my employer(s). If you have an issue with something I may say, take it up with me, either by posting in the forums, emailing me through my profile, or PMing me through my profile.
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