He even built his own ladder truck....
He even built his own ladder truck....
that is the same way we would throw the 24
And "Tips secure, dogs are locked, butt is squared, haylard is tied, and propper climbing angle...Sir ladder is butted and ready to climb."
Otherwise everything sounds right. I got out of the academy in December, hated state day.
I'm a bit confused. He said you cannot use the building which seems impossible if its a big ladder. However, all of the responses and the video are with butting the ladder against the building. Maybe I read the original post wrong? I wasn't taught how to do a single person raise at the academy, but once on my dept they showed me and told me that's how I'll usually put one up.
MAYBE IF ALL OF THESE CITIES WOULD STOP WITH THE BUDGET CUTS!!! :(
IF you are in a narrow alley way it is IMPOSSIBLE to butt the ladder against the building. If possible you need to sink the single butt of the lower beam in the carry into soft ground or gravel or even against a crack in the pavement and beam raise the ladder. If nothing is there to butt he ladder against it is entirely possible and safe to raise the ladder on its beam without it if you have practiced this. Using the high shoulder carry in this instance may be the preferred carry.
A single person raise of a 24 foot ladder should be a requirement of every recruit academy. It is not an impossible task and if done properly, after practice of course, it is not dangerous either.
OSHA bases its safety mandates on NFPA codes and standards. Why do we have standards for safety on the fireground? So more of us get to go home and enjoy our lives once the fire's over. It doesn't make any difference to your widow how short-staffed your department was when you did something stupid in an effort to overcome that manpower shortage. Our number one priority on the fireground is personal safety, period. Sure, you can raise an extension ladder by yourself. But is it worth it?
You would be surprised by what you CAN do and things you WILL do when faced in the matter of life and death. This would include "non-approved" ladder raises.
I am all for doing things safe and by the book, but it is nice to have an ace in your pocket for when "desperate times call for desperate measures"
Another way to raise an extension ladder with one person, without butting the ladder against the building:
And if you're interested, the 2 person 35 ft. evolution (again, without the ladder butting against the building):
This agency raises ladders with the fly section facing the building (the manufacturer has no problem with this). It would be fairly easy to roll the ladder once it is up if you want the fly section out.
Just another way of skinning a cat.
Damn right its worth it. When you have people trapped and not enough FF's to "textbook" style your firefighting operations. When you are understaffed and you have to take action. When another FF pops out a window looking for a rescue ladder because they are trapped and your crew is doing something else.....should I go on?
The mother or father whos kids died becase you only did things the textbook way has a case too, right?
FYI, the single FF extension ladder raise is in many books and taught at many academies. There are a few unique twists to it that are awesome tools to know if a situation warrants the action.
You can't be in this business if you refuse to acknowledge there will be times we HAVE to "violate" safety "rules" to accomplish goals in extreme and trying circumstances.
fireEMSgrrrl- stick to the EMS side of things. It obvious your firefighting skills, abilities, basic fire ground task knowledge is a little lacking.Quote:
It doesn't make any difference to your widow how short-staffed your department was when you did something stupid in an effort to overcome that manpower shortage. Our number one priority on the fireground is personal safety, period. Sure, you can raise an extension ladder by yourself. But is it worth it?
We've always called it the "one man slam", because when ya bring the ladder up from the ground, you kinda throw it into the building.
We thought it was funny to leave divots in the training tower.
(I know, but we were young recruits...)
Learned the same way at 3 different academies, including the Wa State one at North Bend.
Not sure what all the fuss is about.
I can't believe how many don't know why you would do this and how many have not done it before.
Here is how it's done: