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    Default Knoxville collapse caught on film

    Pretty dramatic footage of the warehouse fire collapsing.

    http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp...&nav=menu7_2_1

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    why doesn't it appear that a collapse zone was in effect? That apparatus/personnel was entirely too close.

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    WOW thak god noone hurt or killed in that
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    Thank god they all got out safe.
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    Wowsers!
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    Ah, hello? Collapse Zone? Safety Officer? Anyone?...

    (sorry to sound like a Monday morning QB, but WTF was that truck and those guys doing parked in the street THAT close to the bldg. THAT far along in the job?)

    Thankfully, nobody got caught in the collapse and equipment can always be replaced...
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    So, nice to see I wasn't the only one wondering why there was no collapse zone set up. (Thankfully no one was seriuosly injured or killed!)
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    Someone could have got killed or worse!
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    The above comment is an old inside joke if you didn't notice!
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    Default ????

    I know we dont know what goes on when we aint on some scenes and we critic it, but that is basics, if you that close were taught to be at the corner of a building, but that well involved why were they even that close, and it looks like it was a quint, why wasnt the stick in the air? Questions questions........I am happy that no one was killed....

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    Cool footage. They do seem to be a bit close, good thing no one was injuried.
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    From the footage and the overhead view the "warehouse" appears to have about six frontages. Maybe the truck was set at the corner but when the fire spread they were in a bad spot. Just a guess. Just glad no one was hurt.

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    Monday morning Qbing is an awesome thing, isn't it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by scote3232 View Post
    Monday morning Qbing is an awesome thing, isn't it??
    Not always. But sometimes the only way people learn is through mistakes. Not every incident should be QB'd. And I have not watched the video, I may or I may not. However, I'd rather learn from someone else's mistake, than get injured or killed because I didn't want to learn.

    NO fireground operation ever goes PERFECT. Find the mistakes. Go back to the kitchen table, get a cup of coffee and LEARN from them. Thats the difference between a good company and a sh*t one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocVBFDE14 View Post
    Not always. But sometimes the only way people learn is through mistakes. Not every incident should be QB'd. And I have not watched the video, I may or I may not. However, I'd rather learn from someone else's mistake, than get injured or killed because I didn't want to learn.

    NO fireground operation ever goes PERFECT. Find the mistakes. Go back to the kitchen table, get a cup of coffee and LEARN from them. Thats the difference between a good company and a sh*t one.
    Of course I understand that you do a debriefing about incidents, EMS and Fire. And I know that there are about a zillion and one ways to do something and that nothing ever goes just how you want it.

    However no one on this thread was there, yet I see people piling on about this incident as if they were....everyone is all of the sudden an expert.

    That's all I was saying.

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    I've been on that street many times....very narrow and usually cluttered with cars. The other side is pretty much railroad tracks.

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    http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=42006 For more videos, pictures and story.


    They did lose a rig, and had three brothers slid down a charged line to safety.

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