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    5 firefighter's were injured in a flashover in KC... with 2 of them in serious condition. Wish them well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    5 firefighter's were injured in a flashover in KC... with 2 of them in serious condition. Wish them well.
    A quick recovery to the brothers in Kansas City. I Hope the burns aren't as serious as the news makes them out to be. Looked like a tough job.

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    Five Kansas City Firefighters Injured in Flashover


    Updated: 02-16-2007 01:38:50 PM


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    Courtesy of KSHB-TV





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    The fire was reported at 10 a.m. in a building that houses Kennedy's Bar




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    KANSAS CITY, Mo.-- Kansas City firefighters are working a 2-alarm fire in the 7500 block of Washington. There have been several reports of injuries.

    The fire started at the Kennedy's Bar and Grill, 7428 Washington, but no word yet on what started the blaze. Emergency crews are currently staging in the Walgreen's parking lot nearby. At least five firefighters are hurt with varying levels of severity and crews on scene expect there will be more.

    Kansas City Fire Department spokesman says five firefighters were transported from the scene. Early indications say their injuries are all burns. The firefighters made entry onto the first floor with hand lines, battling what appeared to be a second-floor fire. As they were trying to find the stairwell a flashover occurred.

    A flashover is when the contents of the structure heat to their ignition point and all combust simultaneously.

    Vitale says the firefighters did not become disoriented and were able to find the way out. The incident commander on scene called for an immediate evacuation.

    Two of the firefighters are currently in critical condition, two are listed in serious condition.

    The fire department is currently battling the flames in a defensive mode, trying to keep it from spreading. Vitale said the black smoke columns indicate there is still a lot of combustion and a lot of flames still inside the structure.

    Firefighters believe the fire began in a grease trap. Vitale said they have not been able to battle the flames with foam because it does not work well on three-dimensional fires. The foam has to be able to blanket and smother the objects burning or about to burn. Vitale said when the structure is vertical, foam will run off and not do its job.

    The water department is trying to help boos the pressure for firefighters on the scene. They are currently concentrating efforts to the originating structure and prevent the spread.

    Witnesses say the fire began to spread into other parts of the building after 11 a.m. Flames have spread to Caf?? Apanaire. Other businesses in the building are Frankly Basic, and The Gown Gallery.

    Firefighters say they are also battling the extreme cold. The water gets under their gear and trapped, then becomes health-threatening situation just with the cold.

    Republished with permission of KSHB-TV.




    Best wishes to those injured Brothers, but the comment that worried me was "At least five firefighters are hurt with varying levels of severity and crews on scene expect there will be more. ".

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    Just saw this...Families and friends of the injured are in our thoughts/prayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebody509 View Post
    Just saw this...Families and friends of the injured are in our thoughts/prayers.
    Families and friends of the injured are in our thoughts/prayers...AMEN
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    Amen is right. I pray that the five have a speedy recovery.

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    Also www.myfoxkc.com has an extensive look at the fire through several stories.

    Including the building history as a theater from the early 1920s to about 1990.

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    All the best and prayers for a full recovery to the KC brothers.

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    You can watch Chief Smokey's news conference here http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...202162007&ts=H

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    Hope all goes well for them...it looked pretty intense.

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    I hope the injured firefighters are back on their trucks soon. I also think the chief handled himself very well in the interview as well. It also appeared that the media was asking some questions in the end of the interview that were a little bit out of line.

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    Update in KC, 1 ff treated and released, 2 ff's in good condition, 1 ff in fair condition and 1 ff in serious condition. No respiratory injuries, all injuries due to burns. My prayers go out to my brothers.

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    Thanks for the update...hope all come out OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrygarcia View Post
    Update in KC, 1 ff treated and released, 2 ff's in good condition, 1 ff in fair condition and 1 ff in serious condition. No respiratory injuries, all injuries due to burns. My prayers go out to my brothers.

    Thanks for the update Jerry.

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    From the other KC guys from across the river, we are thinking about you and hope for a speedy recovery.

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    This is a repost from another thread. Please think and be safe.

    Something to think about.



    HOW WE DIE
    " THE DEATH OF A FIREFIGHTER "
    By Glenn Usdin (Reprinted from the New Jersey Fire Focus March/April 1999 issue)



    Firefighters don't die in peaceful scenes right out of the latest tear-jerking movie, with the patient's life oozing away as the immediate family gently sobs and watches as their loved one goes to a better place. It ain't that pretty for us. When we go in the line of duty, it's cruel and painful and far too ugly for most of us to even imagine.



    Not very many of us want to re-create the last living moments of our fellow firefighters who have given the ultimate sacrifice. But for that very reason, our own inability to come to terms with the manner and reasons that our fellow firefighters have perished while performing their assigned tasks, it is so vital that we study and analyze the cause of how we die in this profession.



    We die fearfully, hopelessly lost in the myriad of rooms of buildings surrounded by flames and smoke,separated by mere yards (that for all intents and purposes could be miles away) from the nearest hoseline, our air supply gone, choking and vomiting into unconsciousness, while crews are unable to mount a rescue attempt, if they were even aware that we were missing or trapped.



    Sometimes we even drown in the water that fills the basement that we have fallen into, without our colleagues even knowing that the thousands of gallons of water they pour on the fire is rapidly choking our life away.



    We die in unthinkable pain from the massive burns after being trapped in a flashover, first an instant flash of light as bright as an atomic bomb explosion, then an overall scorch so intense we roast in the flames as our skin chars and our nerves are destroyed, our breathing apparatus harness and face piece, and our protective clothing melted away, allowing the superheated atmosphere to engulf our breathing passages and burn our throat shut, and leaving our burnt carcass lying seared to the floor like any other bit of fallen fire debris.



    We die in fright as sections of wall and roof collapse on us without warning, massive loads of thousands of pounds of wood and bricks and metal and concrete, crushing us, tearing apart our skin, our bones, and finally exploding our internal organs and suffocating us as we bleed out internally, just seconds and feet away from the relative safety of a collapse zone never set up or intentionally disregarded.



    We die instantly from a massive cardiac event that comes on so quickly that we don't even have time to signal for help. An instant flash of chest pain, and then a sudden collapse as our diseased heart's weakend muscle just vibrates and wriggles out of control, pumping not even a single drop to our brain. Not an entire battalion of nearby paramedics can breathe or medicate or even shock a single moment or life back into us.



    We die on the express lanes of the highway, fighting a lousy car fire at 2:00 in the morning, as a drunken driver nods off and his 5,000 lb. car plows into us without even a hint of braking action, crushing our helpless torso from the 45 MPH impact and folding the back step of our engine around the shape or our broken body. (Yet we still proudly drink too much on our own time).



    We die a sad 100 or so every year, and the way that we die has not changed a single bit from the time that organized firefighting began. The numbers of us who perish have declined in recent years, but so have the number of fires that we fight (Oh, remember the good old days when we had lots more fire activity!). We still need to lower the number significantly more.



    Firefighting, an art, not an exact science, is still a very dangerous occupation. But we can, and must, manage our risk. Let's ask the widows of the latest batch of 100 firefighters who died in the line of duty a very simple question, "Was the death of your firefighter husband worth the building he was trying to save?" Anybody want to answer that one? If you, or those under your command, cannot justify the loss of human life, the lives of firefighters, for the sake of a burning building, then we must address the means and methods to carefully manage the risk to avoid loss of our precious lives.



    Make no mistake about it, we are not dying as we try to save women and children trapped in the bedrooms of their homes. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are dying in commercial structures and vacant unoccupied homes, warehouses and tenements, caught in fire and collapse situations that were, or should have been, recognizeable for their hazards to our lives.



    There is no glory to give your life to save (or make) a parking lot. More often than not, the public will not even stop for a moment to pause at the spot that a firefighter has perished. If our customers don't recognize a need to die for their building why should we?



    Tom Brennan, perhaps the finest tactical thinker our fire service has ever seen, showed our comany a slide of a single family dwelling during a drill one afternoon. He described the scene to our group, saying that a family was inside sleeping before the fire broke out. "What is this building?" he asks, and the answer quickly comes back from the group, "an occupied structure!" Then Tom puts the same slide back up, and simply states, "Same building, but this time everyone is 100% confirmed to be out of the home before the FD arrival...now what is this building?" Puzzled looks around the room until Tom declares in his wonderful New York tone "A piece of ****, are you willing to loose your life for this?" Your life (and the lives of those who serve with you) depends on your correct response.



    The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) now investigates every firefighter fatality in the U.S., and issues a comprehensive report based upon their investigation of these fires. You can access these reports directly from the NIOSH WEBSITE at www.cdc.gov/niosh/firehome.html. These reports are sad reading for those of us in the fire business.



    While each of these reports condenses into a few pages a whole series of tragic events that led to the death of a precious firefighter, they are nonetheless an important tool for us to use. These investigative summaries can never capture the human side of the tragedy of these events, the feeling of hopelessness and failure on the part of those involved, and the unbelievable sequence of events gone wrong that lead to a line-of-duty-death. The simple fires are sometimes the most tragic.



    Please, be Safe.
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    Your brothers south of you are pulling for all to make a speedy and full recovery. Stay safe.
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