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    Default Proper RIT technique...........

    aight, thanks to everyone for the information on geting my RIT/MAYDAY training rolling. now i need some information on proper RIT techniques, more so on what to do once you actally reach the downed firefighter. i found a few videos to see what you guys think of these departments RIT procedures.............

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkgmhATQGVY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDQBsdYyhW8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEUYrBQf9jM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M7LafD0ydw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkmlWgpvLjY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9Bo9HDC644

    if you guys know of any other videos that would be great. i just need input on procedures and methods. also, does anyone know how to download videos off of youtube so i can use them for training. thanks everyone, stay safe out there.


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    http://www.kcmo.org/fire.nsf/web/training?opendocument

    That should be the link to the KCFD L.A.S.T.

    compliments of this thread

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...highlight=KCFD

    Ok here is the video, directly above is a link to KCFD's website and explanation.

    http://www.kcmo.org/fire/Last.wmv


    * edit, oh yeah big long video!
    I.A.C.O.J. "The Cork"

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    RIT crew enters with minimal tools so that they can move quickly. Crew has at least the RIT pak , search line , handlights and a hand tool or two ( halligan or equilent , sledghammer or equilent )
    Heres what we do once we reach the downed F/F.
    Assuming he is not conscious :
    1. Report your location with a BRIEF size up. Example: RIT team to command , located downed F/F on the # 2 floor , side B , he is not conscious. We will need to take him out the window , have a ladder set up.
    ( ladders should already have been set up , but if they haven't , ask for it to be done ) You don't have to take him out the way you came in. Take him out the nearest point of egress.
    2. Check to see if he is breathing.
    3. Check to see how much air is left in his scba bottle.
    4. Top off his bottle with the RIT pak. If he doesn't have an scba or a face piece on for some reason , give him the preconnected face mask attached to the RIT pak.
    5. If he has an scba on , turn it into a " harness ".
    6. Drag him out by the top of the pak or the by using the shoulder straps on the pak. ( as long as you have turned it into a " harness " , it won't get pulled off )
    7. If he does not have an scba on , make a harness out of a piece of webbing. May sound hard to do under tough circumstances , but if you practice it , it is not that hard and can be done qiuckly. ( All of the RIT guys in my station carry a 12' piece of webbing for this purpose )


    That's our procedure in a nut shell. If your looking for more info. let me know. Our procedures are based on how we have been taught. There are probably other ways to do it which are just as effective. We were taught by some FDNY guys , can't get any better that that in my humble opinion. Also took a class instructed by a guy in Pittsburg , PA but i remember his name.


    Anything else you need , just ask. I love talking about RIT. It is one of the most crucial elements of any F/F training.

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    sure thing. any info is helpful. i know a few things like how to use an scba as a harness, and how to use a halligan under scba straps as a grip, and very basic one man and two man carries.
    one thing i forgot to ask.........
    our scba's are SCOTT 2.2's. they are a little old, but in good condition. they do not have the quick connect to give air into the scba that is being worn by the downed firefighter. in this situation, would you go as far to bring in another scba to give air to the downed firefighter or what???? or would you basically work as fast as you can before he runs out of air? i ask this because if you find your downed firefighter and his low-air alarm is sounding, what can you do to give him more air if his scba does not have a quick connect?

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    Good question. Do you have a RIT pak? The Scott RIT pak has a preconnected length of hose (6' or 10') coming off the RIT pak that has a regulator at the end of it. Just tie the regulator into the F/F face piece and leave it connected for the duration of the rescue. He will be breathing out of the RIT pak which has a 60 minute bottle. If you don't have a RIT pak , then yes i would bring in an scba with regaulator and tie that regulator into the F/F face piece. As far as whether or not to waste the time giving him more air or not , just take the 30 seconds and do it. Unless of course you are in an EXTREMELY danderous area in which case you may not have the 30 seconds to get it done. The situation will dictate what you do regarding giving him air. Is he completely out of air or is the low air supply alarm going off? Does he have 5 minutes of air left or does he have 10 minutes of air left? Are you near a means of egress or do you not yet where you are going to take him out? How hostile are the conditions around. Are you on the fire floor , floor above the fire or floor below the fire? See what I mean.

    Scenario: You find the F/F in the hallway , unconscious , low air alarm is sounding , you don't know your means of egress. Fire is advancing toward you.

    Solution: Usually bedrooms are off a hallway right? No problem , maybe you can drag him into a bedroom , or some other safe room , and CLOSE THE DOOR BEHIND YOU. This will by you some time. Maybe now you can address his air issue. What is in a bedroom ? Windows. Now you also have your means of egress.


    My best advice for you is not to get to locked into what your procedure will be. You must remain flexible and act accordingly to the conditions around you . Talk and train on several different scenarios so that when the day comes and you get activated as the RIT to go save your own you will be prepared as best as possible.


    I am in no way a specialist in RIT. I have been fortunate enough to take many courses on the subject. My station runs RIT for our surrounding towns.
    Thankfully , we have only had to stand "fast" outside the fire building and never had to enter to make a rescue so have no actual experience conducting RIT in a hostile , sh** your pants environment. My experience is based solely on hands-on training and in-house drills. I just wanted to make that clear , i didn't want to come off as a " no all , having done all " kind of person.

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