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    Default 2006-2007 Pierce Custom Contender

    Anyone out there have a Custom Contender pumper that would like to share features and pictures. I am working on a flat roof, side mount; 1500/1000/30 A foam with CAFS , and would like to know any special features that others may have included in theirs; also anyone that has 12 volt telescoping scene lights, likes or dislikes on the amount of light they put out.


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    Post 2 New Pierce Engines ?

    It looks like your department is going for a 2nd new engine, must be nice to have unlimited funds ! Just joking, The contender is a good basic pumper at a very good price starting at $ 221,574.00 plus " options ". Pierce Mfg has a few demo/stock units listed on www.Glickfire.com check them out for information !...
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    Did you ever look into a Ferrara Intruder 2 pumper, Listed below is a Ferrara engine from the " Haledon Fire Department. These pumpers start at the base price of $ 200,000 .
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    Thanks, the Rescue that we just had delivered was 2005 budget money. Our engine is 2007 money. We kinda feel that a "stock" or program pumper would work out better as our workhorse engine; as the big generator and light tower is on the rescue. Most times our engine and rescue would be together, so duplicating the big ticket items seems like a waste. We drink the "kool aid" and want to stay with the Black oval. Haledon's pumpers are quite nice from what i hear from those guys. They get a lot of work in Paterson also. We looked at the Velocity/Impel, but first off, the cabs are 100" wide plusthe narrowest morrirs put the apparatus wider than our bay door opening, as well as a raised roof job would be too high. An Arrow XT flat roof with A/c is too high also.

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    This last spring we took delivery of a Pierce contender pumper (stainless steel body) we bought as an off the line in production truck. Overall we have been very happy with it. The big draw was the quick deliviery time, even though it was delayed by a engine recall by cummings. ( we had a pumper go down and wanted a replacement NOW) We have 2 - 12 volt mast lights on the rear of the crew cab with Metal hallide light heads. very nice, lots of light. We switch them on on approach, by time you step out of the cab you can see where you're going. Wiring extras, such as radios, chargers etc is easy as provisions for these things are built into the wiring harness. We did add a deck gun (stinger 3, 1250 GPM) with riser pipe, a 3" pre-piped discharge to the right side of rear bed for a 3" blitz line with 500 GPM monitor, and swapped the 24 ft ladder for a 35 ft. (no truck company here). Next we are going to add an hydraulic generator and light tower. We will be moving the new smaller gas powered hurst tool with a combo cutter spreader to this engine also. Not a lot of padding and frills but a well built truck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engine305 View Post
    Thanks, the Rescue that we just had delivered was 2005 budget money. Our engine is 2007 money. We kinda feel that a "stock" or program pumper would work out better as our workhorse engine; as the big generator and light tower is on the rescue. Most times our engine and rescue would be together, so duplicating the big ticket items seems like a waste. We drink the "kool aid" and want to stay with the Black oval. Haledon's pumpers are quite nice from what i hear from those guys. They get a lot of work in Paterson also. We looked at the Velocity/Impel, but first off, the cabs are 100" wide plusthe narrowest morrirs put the apparatus wider than our bay door opening, as well as a raised roof job would be too high. An Arrow XT flat roof with A/c is too high also.
    Fire & Safety Services LLC has delivered a few new custom Contender pumpers around the state of New Jersey, Pierce builds a good program apparatus at a fair price. This is our 2005 Kme Extreme Series program apparatus, cost us $ 270,000 plus equipment !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt406 View Post
    This last spring we took delivery of a Pierce contender pumper (stainless steel body) we bought as an off the line in production truck. Overall we have been very happy with it. The big draw was the quick deliviery time, even though it was delayed by a engine recall by cummings. ( we had a pumper go down and wanted a replacement NOW) We have 2 - 12 volt mast lights on the rear of the crew cab with Metal hallide light heads. very nice, lots of light. We switch them on on approach, by time you step out of the cab you can see where you're going. Wiring extras, such as radios, chargers etc is easy as provisions for these things are built into the wiring harness. We did add a deck gun (stinger 3, 1250 GPM) with riser pipe, a 3" pre-piped discharge to the right side of rear bed for a 3" blitz line with 500 GPM monitor, and swapped the 24 ft ladder for a 35 ft. (no truck company here). Next we are going to add an hydraulic generator and light tower. We will be moving the new smaller gas powered hurst tool with a combo cutter spreader to this engine also. Not a lot of padding and frills but a well built truck.
    What was the recall about on the Cummins engine? We have a new truck as well and having a few issues with it as far as "Check engine" light "Stop Engine" light.

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    also anyone that has 12 volt telescoping scene lights, likes or dislikes on the amount of light they put out.
    Our tanker has a pair of Fire Research 150 watt 12 volt HID lights with Optimum heads. They have been great. When you turn them on they take a few minutes to warm up and come up to full brighness. Its a very bright white looking light.
    Here is the spec
    150 WATT HID FLOODLIGHT

    Fire Research Optimum model OPA100-H15 lamphead shall be provided. The lamphead mounting arm shall terminate in 3/4" NPT threads. Wiring shall extend from the lamphead mounting arm bottom.

    The lamphead shall have one (1) High Intensity Discharge (HID) 150 watt 12 volt bulb. The bulb will draw 12.5 amps and generate 11,250 lumens. The bulb shall be accessible through the front. The lamphead shall incorporate a vacuum deposit polished reflector and two optimizing mirrors to produce a uniform beam that lights up an area 100° vertically by 150° horizontally. The lamphead shall have a heat dissipating curved front lens. The curve of the lens shall have a radius of 5.16 inches to optimize light emission. The lamphead shall be no more than 7 1/16" deep by 5 1/8" high by 8 3/4" wide. Lamphead and brackets shall be powder coated white.

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    We have a 2006 pierce Contender and it is a great truck. It has a 1000 gallon tank 60 class A foam cell around the pump not CAFS too much for our budget unfortunately, 2000 GPM Side mount pump. Roll up doors, Raised roof cab, is nice but not a necessity. One 150ft 1 3/4 front bumper line, 2 200ft 1 3/4 crosslays, 1 200ft 2 1/2 crosslay, and a 100ft 1 3/4 trash line on the side. Plus a preconnected Skid load in the back (200ft 2 1/2 gated wye and 2 150ft 1 ¾), 1000ft 3 inch and 1000ft 5 inch. Pre connect 25ft 5 inch in front bumper, porta tank in hose bed and 2 sections of hard suction, full complement of ground ladders through the pump minus a 35ft extension. Full complement of Rescue tools, airbags, winch with a receiver hitch on every side of the truck. Four bottle air cascade, a dump on the back of the truck, and a Hydraulic PTO generator in the dunnage area, and a light tower on top of the truck. I would trade any other piece of equipment on the truck for the light tower it is great it turns night into day and is easy to put up and take down. We will not order another truck without one my Chief stated. It is a Great truck we have had it almost a year I believe and have had almost no problems with it. Hope this helps if you would like I will try and take some pictures of it next chance I get and will post them. Good luck with your new truck.

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    Default Miami-Dade Custom Contenders

    Here are pics of our recently delivered Contender custom chassis. This is one of three our training department will be using. Notice the speedlays, low hosebed, and ladders mounted on the body- the only engines in Miami-Dade's fleet to be configured this way.

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    Default Maimi-Dade Custom Contender

    Here is the pump panel..


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    Default Custom Contender

    bump............Anyone new out there with a Custom Contender pumper, mine should be delivered first part of July. Likes and dislikes...

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    Most custom Contenders that I have seen don't have side crew cab windows, will your new engine get them as a option ???

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    Default windows

    yes sir, it has those

    CAFS too, 140 cfm

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    Cool contender options

    In my opinion, the best custom contender option is the speedlays with side control pump panel. They are lower than the crosslays and don't add much wheelbase. Ours has the Honda generator with front and side fire research lights - looks like a 747 landing on country roads at night!

    Rear 2.5" tank fill is a good option, as well as LED warning lights.... the new L31 Whelen is great for the upper rear, although $$$.

    The inspection trip is worth the $ - try fishing while at the gulf.

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    Default 2007 Emissions Cab Pictures

    These are cab construction pictures showing how Pierce has to modify the engine tunnel to get the ISL motors with the new emission control systems installed. Its not our cab yet, but a representative sample. We will be using the 2 forward facing seats as the primary jumpseats and use the 2 jumpseats next to the tunnel as the secondary seats. The tunnel on a Saber/Custom Contender used to be flat without the rear raised portion.
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    Interesting picture, takes up a fair bit of space but i guess it can't be worse than some older american pumpers where the entire space between the seats was taken up with engine tunnel.

    Any reason the engine isn't forward of the crew area, between the officer and driver or does all the latest engine attachments mean there is no choice but to go back and up ?

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    Default Engine

    The engine does go all the way up to the front.
    The older trucks and my 2007 Pierce Enforcer has a flat engine tunnel all the way back, with no raised portion. Its not bad considring the older trucks had the motor tunnel almost to the ceiling, and all the way back to the back wall. The rearward facing SCBA seats get mounted on those risers next to the tunnel and the seat cushions dont stick out much past the back of the engine tunnel
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    Thanks mate, just trying to learn, they aren't bad, we only use commercial cabs over here (tried La France, they only lasted a couple of years, now in training).

    I did sit in a Contender at Forest FD, Virginia, it wasn't to bad, although I did remember thinking a little more room would have been nice, then I remembered what I had to jump back into at home!

    Thanks again for your info, keen to learn !

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    Default Yessir.+

    Is the apparatus in Australia standardized?
    I am partial to Commercial chassis tanker/tenders.
    My personal opinion is the tanker should bring just water to the scene, along with a portable tank for shuttles; and a portable pump for remote supplies.
    Tendencies are to make the apparatus do anything and everything, and it makes it so big that it has to stay on the main road.

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