Thread: Hillary Clinton
03-19-2007, 10:27 AM #1
An airplane was about to crash; there were 5 passengers on board, but only 4 parachutes.
The first passenger said, "I am Kobe Bryant, the best NBA basketball player; the Lakers need me, I can't afford to die." So he took the first pack and left the plane.
The second passenger, Hillary Clinton said, "I am the wife of the former U.S. President, a Senator from New York , and a potential future president. And I am the smartest woman in American history, so America 's people don't want me to die." She took the second pack and jumped out of the plane.
The third passenger, Kelly Clarkson, said, "I'm Kelly Clarkson, I am an American idol, I just won a grammy. Think of how much talent would be lost if I die?" So she grabbed the pack next to her and jumped.
The fourth passenger, President George W. Bush, said to the fifth passenger, a 10-year-old schoolgirl, "I have lived a full life, and served my country well, I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute."
The girl said, "That's okay. There's a parachute left for you. America 's smartest woman took my schoolbag."My posts reflect my views and opinions, not the organization I work for or my IAFF local. Some of which they may not agree. I.A.C.O.J. member
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03-19-2007, 11:28 AM #2
We could only be so lucky!Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.
03-19-2007, 11:33 AM #3
I heard a little different. It was George Bush jumping out only he forgot to grab a parachute or a schoolbag. Neither of which would surprise me.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-19-2007, 11:36 AM #4
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"If you cannot say something nice about somebody,you must be talking about Hillary Clinton.."Jeff Foxworthy.
That's the good thing about jokes:you can change the names to reflect well or poorly on anyone from George Bush to Jerry Springer or whomever you want to denigrate.
03-19-2007, 11:54 AM #5
One thing that will make this entertaining for us political types. Attacks on Hillary will be met with full force. She won't make the same mistake as Kerry and just assume everyone will know they are nonsense.
There will be no Swift Boating in that campaign.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-19-2007, 11:58 AM #6
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03-20-2007, 10:44 PM #9
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Seems like they should have worked together to stop Osama bin Ladin from crashing the plane . . .
03-20-2007, 11:55 PM #10
Memo from a Secret Service Agent
I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE,
two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon.
Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him, if
the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't intervened, we
would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he (Johnson) was off
somewhere. Nixon never required that, and the four (4) stops we made with
him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to my crew and me.
Denny Keast: We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secretservice presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and
Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the
Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ
was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter
never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or
LBJ in style or variety.
The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president Bush
make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around.
When the president flies, there are several planes that also go and carry
the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press
aircraft. Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air
Force and security people could have a day with their families.
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She
forbade her daughter, Chelsea , from exchanging pleasantries with them.
Sometimes Chelsea , miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean
spiritedness ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but
never in her mother's presence.
Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus
opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her. Hillary Clinton
was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should,
but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the
Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against
her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the SecretService, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors HillaryClinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.
Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it
instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that
the Clinton 's neither liked nor respected each other and this was true long
before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "Marriage of
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the
Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them. His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.
Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were friendlier toward each other than either of them was towards former President Clinton. They
were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a
Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but
soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or
associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory.
Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill
Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His
hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency.
This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said
as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them
trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even
liked Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had
none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control.
Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with
certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his
security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?" Word of
this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread and he became as
disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed that Al Gore
would not be elected President, and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest and
most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary
patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail,
Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn't just shake
their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her
detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false
about her. This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to
be a "breath of fresh air."
They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing
Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North." Likewise, the Secret
Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always
treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their
expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the
president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he
helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with
them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their
first name as a show of affection. He always asks about their family, the
names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and
genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or
respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they
would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn
that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed since he
began his presidency.
Yeah, Hillary has my Vote.....Not!!!! Along with Al "My Life is an Inconvenient truth" Gore.I believe them bones are me. Some say we are born into the grave. I feel so alone, gonna end up a big ol' pile a them bones
03-21-2007, 01:21 AM #11
Yup. This email popped into someone's Inbox. So it must be true.
Try not to a bleating sheep your whole life.
Last edited by scfire86; 03-21-2007 at 09:22 AM.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-21-2007, 10:55 AM #12
I'm at fault for taking this E-mail that I received on face value alone. At least it is unproven. However, the individual doing the "investigation" for the website is kicking the conservative conspiracy heavy.....Gotta be a NeoCon trying to assassinate the impeccable charcacter of the Democrats listed. Riiiigggghhht!
To tell you the truth, the reason why I believed this after reading it once was due to the following:
I have a very good friend who is a local police officer. Prior to starting his law enforcement career, he pulled several years in the Marines. During that time, he had the honor of being assigned to the Marine Presidential Guard. This, as it sounds, put him in close proximity to the President with occasional interaction. Regardless, he started the detail with George Senior as Commander-in-Chief and ended with the Clintons in office. According to him, President Bush treated the Marines with respect and dignity while he described the Clintons and most of their associates as toolboxes. They treated all the "hired help" as if they were second class citizens. Just a tad bit of sarcasm there. Therefore, I fully take the blame for blindly copying and pasting my previous post.
So, put that in your pipe and smoke it, hippie!
Last edited by FDAIC485; 03-21-2007 at 12:42 PM.I believe them bones are me. Some say we are born into the grave. I feel so alone, gonna end up a big ol' pile a them bones
03-21-2007, 11:15 AM #13
So bite me, cracker.
And one other thing. My crew member is a republican.
Last edited by scfire86; 03-21-2007 at 11:20 AM.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-21-2007, 11:57 AM #14
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So,being nice and cordial to the people charged with protecting you and your family to the point of jumping in front of incoming gunfire is wrong?
I've read different accounts of how the Clintons and their administration treated people like second class citizens and have reached the same conclusion of their arrogance.
If you keep hearing of how they'd expect senior military officers to open doors like they weren't there to advise on defense issues or to keep track of their daughter's schoolbooks when she was a high school senior,you have to start wondering just what kind of a-holes these people are.
Would you mind being treated like that by someone claiming to be"a friend of the people"?Is that how our elected officials are suposed to act,like they are a ruling class and answerable to no one?
I thought this was an elected Republic and not a royal hierarchy.
03-21-2007, 01:29 PM #15
Regardless, it sounds like your fact is more like opinion. I give you an opinion of somone who was around two different Presidents and their associates while you give me a brother-in-law's friend who heard something.
So spare Me.I believe them bones are me. Some say we are born into the grave. I feel so alone, gonna end up a big ol' pile a them bones
03-21-2007, 01:35 PM #16
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Well, I tried.
03-21-2007, 01:51 PM #17
Seems like you fall into the usual conservative claptrap M.O.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-21-2007, 01:52 PM #18Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-21-2007, 02:37 PM #19
One sunny day in 2008, an old man approached the White House from across
Pennsylvania Avenue, where he'd been sitting on a park bench.
He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, "I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton."
The Marine replied, "Sir, Mrs. Clinton is not President and doesn't reside here."
The old man said, "Okay," and walked away.
The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton".
The Marine again told the man, "Sir, as I said yesterday, Mrs. Clinton is not President and doesn't reside here."
The man thanked him and again walked away .
The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the
very same Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet with President Hillary Clinton."
The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, "Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mrs. Clinton.
I've told you already several times that Mrs Clinton is not the President and doesn't reside here. Don't you understand?" The old man answered, "Oh, I understand you fine, I just love hearing your answer!"
The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said,
"See you tomorrow."Psychiatrists state 1 in 4 people has a mental illness.
Look at three of your friends, if they are ok, your it.
03-21-2007, 03:56 PM #20
Pretty funny Kiwi. But like the other jokes about Hillary on this board it's been around for a while.
Even funnier is how even conservatives are coming around and are facing the fact that Clinton was better on fiscal policy than Bush. Something we libs have known for some time.
Clinton beats Bush on fiscal policyPolitics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-21-2007, 04:21 PM #21
Conservatives are not coming around. We are rebelling against RINO's.
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:33 a.m. EDT
Tom DeLay Nomination Prompts ACU Protest
Four members of the American Conservative Union’s board resigned in protest over the nomination of former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay to the board.
DeLay is back in the limelight with the publication of his new book "No Retreat, No Surrender” and the formation of his Internet-based organization, GAIN (Grassroots, Action, and Information Network), which seeks to raise money for conservative Republicans.
But some members of the ACU — one of America’s most prominent conservative groups — refuse to let the Texas Republican off the hook for the massive increases in government spending that took place during his tenure as majority leader.
"He carried the water for some of the biggest government expansions in the history of the republic,” political strategist Marc Rotterman, one of the four board members who resigned after DeLay was nominated in December, told the publication Roll Call.
"We looked at Tom DeLay to stop those kinds of bills, not to promote them. He was complicit.”
Rotterman singled out the No Child Left Behind Act, the Medicare prescription drug program and the surge in federal earmarks as big-spending measures that passed during DeLay’s tenure.
Conservative Rep. Jeff Flake of Arizona described DeLay’s leadership as concentrating on redistricting, fund raising, and the distribution of pork, according to columnist Robert Novak, who first disclosed the resignations.
DeLay eventually joined the ACU board in February.
The ACU, founded in 1964, bills itself as the nation’s largest grass-roots conservative lobbying organization. It hosts the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, which this year was held in early March in Washington, D.C.
ACU Chairman David Keene said he engineered DeLay’s involvement with the group to give him an opportunity to redeem himself. "He has great talent and solid beliefs, and he misapplied some of that talent when he held the job,” Keene told Roll Call.
In his new book, DeLay blames the Bush administration for the explosion of government spending.
"George W. Bush calls himself a ‘compassionate conservative,’ but he has expanded government to suit his purpose, especially in the area of education,” DeLay writes.
"He may be compassionate, but he is certainly no conservative in the classic sense.”
Despite his protestations, DeLay still has a way to go to get back in the good graces of many conservatives, according to Michael Franc, vice president of government relations at the Heritage Foundation.
"There are many rooms in the conservative mansion,” he said. "In the small-government room he has more work to do than in many others.”Fortune does not change men; it unmasks them.
The grass ain't greener, the wine ain't sweeter!! Either side of the hill.
03-21-2007, 05:43 PM #22
03-23-2007, 11:30 AM #23
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"Dereliction of Duty"was written by an Air Force officer who thought he was going to be dealing with the same types of people he was used to being around:folks that were held accountable for their actions and held others to the same standard.He came to the conclusion that that wasn't the case with the Clintons and their administration.
He spoke of how he was expected to babysit a box of papers when Hillary was under investigation,how military personnel were told NOT to wear the uniform of the day around the White House,how the President's personal physician,a US Navy medical officer was treated like a hotel bellboy by politicians of his own race,and one real zinger,how Air Force One was almost turned around while returning from Africa and almost back to the States because Chelsea forgot her school books.That would have cost the taxpayers quite a bit unnecessarily don't you think?
How people treat those that work for them is often an indication of how they look at the people that put them into political office.
As to why he took the job,he says that he didn't really want to.He was next in line for a squadron command which is what he wanted and kept getting advice from friends to take the offer.
He went on to take his command after cutting short his tour because he was getting tired of how things were run in such a haphazard fashion.
03-23-2007, 11:50 AM #24
Mr. Patterson reports events that no one else has reported, including the CIA agents purportedly involved. The 9/11 Commission found that there were never any incidents in which the CIA located Bin Laden and was ready to move in a matter of hours.
Always be suspicious of anyone who says there are many others who could corroborate his story but they are bound to secrecy. But I'm sure you know that.
The man clearly didn't like Clinton from the start and to his credit saw a great opportunity to seperate Clinton haters such as yourself from their money. Looks like he is succeeding. And btw, the book was loaned to me. What is really interesting is how he believes he and others were treated. Did he believe the tasks were beneath him? I didn't realize AF officers or trotters marine buddy were such sensitve creatures.
Last edited by scfire86; 03-24-2007 at 12:11 AM.Politics is like driving. To go forward select "D", to go backward select "R."
03-26-2007, 02:17 AM #25
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very funnyFF I
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