Greetings, I would like to let everyone know that I have created a free website that will list discounts and deals that are offered to firefighters/police and EMS workers/volunteers. I tried to find a website like this and I found there were none. Right now there isn't much information on it, but I would like to change that with your help. I am looking for companies local and national that offer discounts. The only way to make this site better and help everyone out is to please check out the site www.EmergencyDiscounts.com and submit any places that you know of that offers discounts.
Thank you,
David
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04-15-2007, 04:18 PM #1MembersZone Subscriber
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Firefighter discounts
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04-15-2007, 04:36 PM #2Forum Member
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Ethics?
As a professional, Is it ethical to accept a discount? Is it ehtical to request a discount? Could a discount be seen as a bribe? Is a discount the reason you wear the badge, if it is you are in the wrong place.
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04-15-2007, 04:53 PM #3
Around here, they charge us double so they don't lose money when the police eat for free.
Robert Kramer
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Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.
"Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.
Comments made are my own. They do not represent the official position or opinion of the Fire Department or the City for which I am employed. In fact, they are normally exactly the opposite.
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04-15-2007, 05:57 PM #4
Good one! I'll have to remember that one.Around here, they charge us double so they don't lose money when the police eat for free.
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04-15-2007, 06:37 PM #5
If it is offered as a courtesy with no strings attached, I don't have a problem.
Hypothetical question: You are in the market to replace your family's vehicle with a newer model. One of the local dealerships is offering an additional $500 discount for fire, police, EMS and military personnel on the purchase of a new car... do you tell the salesman that you want to pay the additional $500 for ethical reasons or do accept the $500 discount a lower your payments a little?
While we kid each other and say "give a Jake a break" or "if it's free, it's for me" amongst ourselves, it is not ethical to request a discount.Is it ehtical to request a discount?
Give the brothers and sisters little credit... When someone all of a sudden offers you huge discounts and "free stuff" when the day before they wouldn't give you the time of day, the alarm bells in your head should be ringing!Could a discount be seen as a bribe?
Yeah.. I know of a lot of people who wear the uniform who continue to put themselves in harm's way for perfect strangers in order to save a buck or two on a large pizzaIs a discount the reason you wear the badge, if it is you are in the wrong place.
"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY
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04-15-2007, 06:57 PM #6Forum Member
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04-15-2007, 07:21 PM #7MembersZone Subscriber
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I had thought of that and that is why before I put anything on the page I will talk to the owner or manager of the business to see who the discount would apply to and if they would like to be listed. If it applied only to a certain company or department, it won't get listed because it is very limited. Also if they don't want to be listed I won't list them.
A business owner or manager may offer discount to firefighters and EMT's to get business in, if you like what they offer, maybe you will tell a friend and increase their customer base. Another possibility is that they still have a profit margin with the discount and are able to directly increase their customer base. There are a variety of marketing reasons for businesses to offer discounts to select groups.
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04-15-2007, 07:41 PM #8
You start asking owners if they will always give a discount, is a great way to ensure that they do not give discounts. Nice idea and all, but I think it can backfire on you. I do not ask for a discount, and to be honest, if they have a tip jar I will tip the difference between the normal price and what they charged me.
Co 11
Virginia Beach FD
Amateurs practice until they get it right; professionals practice until they cannot get it wrong. Which one are you?
'The fire went out and nobody got hurt' is a poor excuse for a fireground critique.
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04-15-2007, 09:30 PM #9
Robert Kramer
cell #901-494-9437
Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.
"Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.
Comments made are my own. They do not represent the official position or opinion of the Fire Department or the City for which I am employed. In fact, they are normally exactly the opposite.
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04-15-2007, 09:36 PM #10Forum Member
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That is the way I was taught many years ago. These days the kids on the job have got the balls not only to ask but demand a discount.
Not when you are standing in line waiting to order and loud egnough for the public and store employees to hear.
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04-15-2007, 09:48 PM #11
Co 11
Virginia Beach FD
Amateurs practice until they get it right; professionals practice until they cannot get it wrong. Which one are you?
'The fire went out and nobody got hurt' is a poor excuse for a fireground critique.
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04-15-2007, 09:55 PM #12Forum Member
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But who wouldn't want to know about the first responder discount on glock firearms I mean does that not just make you feel that much better about being a firefighter.
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04-15-2007, 10:23 PM #13MembersZone Subscriber
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I see no problem with getting a discount. It's not like firefighters go around sayin that they wont bring any water to a fire at this store unless they get things for free. Or EMS refusing to do CPR on a guy because they didnt get a discount on a whopper. If someone is doing that then they can go defibrillate their genitals for all I care.
A discount is a way that businesses say thanks and should be viewed as such. It should not be taken advantage of, asked for, waved around in other people's faces or otherwise abused in anyway. I see no problem with this site that tells people where the discounts are. It is free advertising for the company and that means more potential customers.
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04-15-2007, 10:40 PM #14
It has to have limits. We had a save on a choking baby that belonged to the owners of a restaurant just in front of the station, and they insisted on bringing by some free food on a training night. Do you tell them no? Personally, I was involved in the incident (two of us were in the station when dad in a panic comes pounding on the door) - and the biggest treat for me was just holding the little girl a week after the scare.
Our fuel supplier gives us free sodas or coffee when we fill the rig up. We always ask to pay, but they refuse it. Is this wrong?
The toll-booth operators here once in a while will see a uniform shirt, and refuse to take your money. Is this wrong?
Demanding a discount is wrong, even asking for one is. I have to say though, I'm not going to force someone to take my money if they don't want to."Share your knowledge - it's a way to achieve immortality." - Stolen from Chase Sargent's Buddy to Boss program
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04-15-2007, 10:45 PM #15
I can understand the good intent for the website but I still think its insulting. Never ever go in somewhere expecting to get a discount and you sure as hell dont ask for it.
During fire academy, we used to go to a place almost daily that would give us discounts. One day, I ordered and I gave the manager exact change. He was like "Exact change, huh
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And from then on, we never got discounts.....
that and another guy was buying food for his girlfriends
and once we ran a call as this good place to eat. The owner was choking and we were told we come by for lunch and get a discount. Few shifts later we stop buy.... and get shafted. But, that goes back to dont expect it, no matter how badass you are.
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04-15-2007, 10:46 PM #16Forum Member
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I think this website is a great idea. He was not asking for discounts. There is many discounts for ems/firefighter/military that no one knows about. If they are being offered, why not?
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04-15-2007, 11:45 PM #18
I guess I wouldn't ask but if they offered I would take it.
Nothing listed for Wisconsin anyway so I guess I won't worry about it.Jason Knecht
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Altoona Fire Rescue
Altoona, WI
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04-15-2007, 11:51 PM #19
I will NEVER, EVER ask for a discount on anything!
I don't have a problem with fire dept personnel receiving discounts, so long as they do not ask for them, and they don't abuse them.
Personally, I don't expect a discount, nor do I require one.
That being said, I will not usually refuse one should it be offered, so long as it is while I'm on duty and it is done in such a way as to not be obvious to the general public. If I have on a dept hat or tee shirt while off duty (which is quite often) and I'm offered a discount, I will politely say "No thank you, I'm not on duty". If the proprietor insists, I'll accept rather than insult them, but I don't really feel comfortable about doing it.
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I got my eyes done before I saw this, but here in WI they had big disounts for Lasik surgery at one time fore fire, police, and ems.
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