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    Default quick-attack/brush/mini-pumper ?????

    My FD is applying for a quick-attack (F-550, 4x4, 550gpm, 250gwt). We followed NFPA 1901 "initial-attack" to spec this out. How should I name this under "Brush/Attack" on the grant? Is it a brush, a mini-pumper, or Type V, VI etc. ? Please help.

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    Well, from my area, a 550GPM pump would be a mini pumper. What are you rigging it up as, City, Wildland? Are you gonna carry smooth bores and haligans? Or Pulaskis and Mcleods?

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    We have a lot of dirt roads in our coverage area-roads left over from many years of mining anthracite coal. We need an apparatus to go off-road to respond to calls such as brush fires, ATV accidents/rescues, vehicle fires, medical helicopter landing zones, vehicle accidents etc. The apparatus will have a hose reel with forestry hose and two 1 1/2" crosslays. The pump will be a "skid." This unit will also be used for access to structural fires via the tight allies we must maneuver through sometimes.

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    My department sits in a situation where this type of unit would be very beneficial to us and the community. We are considering a piece of apparatus similiar to the following: http://www.exit109.com/~mikezac/mutu...e2montague.jpg

    Some demographics of the department and area. We are an all volunteer fire department running 300 fire and 700 EMS a year. Last year we ran 30 working structure fires and 20 or so natural cover fires. We currently run a 2000 Engine, 1983/96 Quint, 2006 Tanker, 1981 Brush Truck, 1990 Rescue (No water or pump) plus two BLS ambulances. Our area would be considered rural with no hydrants. We have endured enourmous growth post 9-11 with people relocating from the NYC area. Many of these new "mini mansion" style residences are located down long narrow driveways many of which are 600 plus feet long. The driveways are located in sub divisions that were approved many years ago and only have narrow dirt roads that are typically a lane and a half wide. The influx of new construction has posed a serious urban interface problem within the township. The apparatus we would be applying for would be used for both structural and brush related responses in all areas but especially for those 1000+ households in which we cannot get the larger Class A engine and quint into. So my questions to the group are:

    1. Are average years for our apparatus is going to be low. We requested in the 2006 grant funds for a tanker that was 20+ years old and was denied. The new tanker had to be purchased due to an accident that heavily damaged the old tanker in the summer of 2006. This purchase basically took what money we had left that could've of went to the purchase of a smaller attack unit. How do I go about explaining what occurred and why the grant is need?

    2. Would this be considered a Priority 1 vehicle for a department much like my own?

    3. Has anyone been successful in getting one of these vehicles funded?

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    Post Lots of info

    From the Application's Help

    Vehicle Activity
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    The following is a list of items that are eligible for funding in the Vehicle Activity. All equipment that is funded in this activity must comply with applicable NFPA, OSHA, NIOSH, Coast Guard, or ANSI Standards.

    Engine: (Pumper, Wagon and Foam-Pumper) an apparatus equipped with a fire pump of at least 750 gpm capacity, water tank with a minimum of 300 gallons. The apparatus must be manufactured and equipped in accordance with NFPA Standard 1901. Variations include:
    Engine
    Pumper
    Foam Pumper
    CAFS Pumper
    Type I
    Quint w/ladder < 76 feet


    Brush Engine: (Grass Truck or Rig, Patrol, Attack, Mini-Pumper, Booster, CAFS etc.) a small apparatus primarily designed for fighting wild land fires and is often equipped with four-wheel drive to improve its off-road capabilities. The vehicle must be manufactured and equipped to comply with NFPA 1906.

    Tanker: (Tender, Tanker) a vehicle designed to transport large quantities of water to fires in areas without an adequate and reliable public water system. Tank sizes are normally 1000 gallons or greater with a pump with less than 750 gpm capacity and the vehicle must be manufactured and equipped in accordance with NFPA Standard 1901 for tanker. The vehicle may or may not be equipped with a fire pump.
    Tanker
    Foam Tanker
    Tender
    Type 1-3

    Aerial: (Ladder, Truck, Platform, Snorkel, Articulating Platform, Telescoping Platform, Hook & Ladder, Quint) a piece of fire apparatus equipped with a ladder or other mechanical extension and is used to access heights in order to perform rescue and firefighting functions. The apparatus must be manufactured and equipped in accordance with the provisions of NFPA 1901 for aerial apparatus.
    Telescoping
    Articulating
    Platform
    Quint w/ladder > 76 feet

    Rescue
    Squad: (Rescue; variations include Light, Medium, Heavy) a piece of apparatus that is designed to carry specialized equipment to perform non-routine, technical rescues to include, but not be limited to, vehicle extrication, building collapse, trench or below grade, water, high angle, confined space, etc. Variations include:
    Light, Medium, and Heavy
    Technical Rescue Units

    EMS and Other
    Other: A specialized vehicle that includes:
    Ambulances
    Air/Light Units
    Rehab Units
    Fire Boats
    Ambulance: a vehicle that is licensed and equipped to treat and transport the sick and injured to a medical facility.


    The following is a list of items that are ineligible for funding in the Vehicle Activity.

    Ineligible Vehicles
    Bull Dozers
    Aircraft


    Wildland fire engine types
    Type Gallons capacity Gallons per minute (GPM) Crew size minimum
    1 400 1000@150psi 4
    2 400 500@150psi 3
    3 500 120@250psi 3
    4 750 70@100psi 3
    5 400 50@100psi 3
    6 150 30@100psi 3
    7 50 50@100psi 3


    Wildland fire tender
    Type Gallons capacity Gallons per minute (GPM) Crew size minimum
    1 5000 300 2
    2 2500 200 2
    3 1000 200 2

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    Anywhere on the net that I can get a free "bare bones" version of NFPA 1906?

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    Talking Go to the NFPA website

    select preview this document at the bottom of this web page.

    You can view it, but you can't print it.

    http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/Ab...sp?DocNum=1906

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