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    Cool OK, so maby I was wrong.....

    about moving to Jersey.....
    With some family issues, not making enough money to survive, and the absolute disgust with the EMS system, me thinks its time to go back to Fla....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    about moving to Jersey.....
    With some family issues, not making enough money to survive, and the absolute disgust with the EMS system, me thinks its time to go back to Fla....
    Theres lots of room here in NVA or SW MD. I'm sure Harve would appreciate a good hand or two.
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    Allow me to add that the WARM WEATHER was something else I missed......
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    Once you've lived here, it's awfully hard to leave.

    I do wish you the very best.

    BTW, highs well into the 80's, abundant sunshine and girls in short-shorts and bikini tops as I type this... Just thought you might like to know.
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    Now Loo, its not nice to rub it in...

    It also seems to be "easier" to get on a Career Dept....you go and get your Certs, work your @ss off, and then you apply.
    Up here its live in the city, wait 2-8 years, blah blah blah.
    NOT worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    Now Loo, its not nice to rub it in...

    It also seems to be "easier" to get on a Career Dept....you go and get your Certs, work your @ss off, and then you apply.
    Up here its live in the city, wait 2-8 years, blah blah blah.
    NOT worth it
    I guess it's just due to the more transient nature of the population here. If departments down here wanted "home-grown" firefighters, they might have a long, long wait.

    Well, gotta go pick up my girls from school...I think we'll go for a swim when we get home!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    Now Loo, its not nice to rub it in...

    It also seems to be "easier" to get on a Career Dept....you go and get your Certs, work your @ss off, and then you apply.
    Up here its live in the city, wait 2-8 years, blah blah blah.
    NOT worth it

    Every single kid that asks me about getting on a career department gets the same piece of advice: LEAVE NJ.

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    And you were right, George.
    You gave me that advice before I attempted the move, and I should have listened!
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    I agree...I'm lookin to get out of here before its too late. Plus your right the weather is starting to get to me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    And you were right, George.
    You gave me that advice before I attempted the move, and I should have listened!
    I know I did. But I didn't want to come across with an "I told you so". I'm a jerk, but I am not heartless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    about moving to Jersey.....
    With some family issues, not making enough money to survive, and the absolute disgust with the EMS system, me thinks its time to go back to Fla....
    how are you not making enough money to survive? maybe if you worked for a municipal service or hospital based system (instead of a 3rd party service) you could. I know I do. Yeah, I work a Per diem job or two, but I get by.

    I agree, if you want to get hired as a career FF, get out of NJ. I am currently looking at departments in Virginia and Maryland. NJ has too many roadblocks. best to apply everywhere and see what department offers you a job.

    I don't understand your "disgust" with the EMS system. yeah, it has a few problems (ok, most than a few ) but no system is perfect. Too many ALS units, not enough ALS units, BLS can't do a lot, ALS is over dispatched, FD does all the work, EMS just transports, etc.

    just remember the grass is always greener on the other side.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrParasite View Post
    how are you not making enough money to survive? maybe if you worked for a municipal service or hospital based system (instead of a 3rd party service) you could. I know I do. Yeah, I work a Per diem job or two, but I get by.

    I agree, if you want to get hired as a career FF, get out of NJ. I am currently looking at departments in Virginia and Maryland. NJ has too many roadblocks. best to apply everywhere and see what department offers you a job.

    I don't understand your "disgust" with the EMS system. yeah, it has a few problems (ok, most than a few ) but no system is perfect. Too many ALS units, not enough ALS units, BLS can't do a lot, ALS is over dispatched, FD does all the work, EMS just transports, etc.

    just remember the grass is always greener on the other side.......
    All I work for is privates, and quite frankly, I am disgusted with the quality of EMTs that they are hiring. Refusing to learn the area that they serve (living far away, coming to a new area, and not learning streets. Not forgetting, straight up saying no, i wont learn.) Keeping Medics for EVERY call that they are dispatched for, even though we are no more then 4 minutes away from the hospital. Stuff like that.
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    Up here its live in the city, wait 2-8 years, blah blah blah.
    Sounds like you are applying to FDNY.

    I am disgusted with the quality of EMTs that they are hiring.
    Dude, you work in A/C. That's like one of the cesspools of the state.
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    Dude, no wonder you are so disgusted with EMS. Privates suck, at least in the state on NJ. Especially for profit ones. they are generally poorly paid, poorly equipped, hire the EMTs they can pay the least, and only want to focus on profit. That's your problem, you need to look at how a municipal or hospital based system works, and I think you will be change your mind.

    If you want to work EMS in NJ, look at Jersey City EMS, UMDNJ, Monre Twp EMS, RWJUH EMS, Somerset Medical Center, UMDNJ-Camden, Union, Elizabeth PD, or any of the other big cities in the north. I don't know much about south jersey, but in central and north jersey, you absolutely can make enough money to live.

    And most places don't keep medics for every call, they are usually canceled if the BLS crew decides they aren't needed. I don't know how you operate in the AC area, but that's how we operate up here.

    I don't know if you are willing to leave your comfort zone and try something new, PM or e-mail me. yeah, you might have to relocate a little bit, and their is competition, so there is no guarantee of a job, but the good positions aren't' easy to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrParasite View Post
    Dude, no wonder you are so disgusted with EMS. Privates suck, at least in the state on NJ. Especially for profit ones. they are generally poorly paid, poorly equipped, hire the EMTs they can pay the least, and only want to focus on profit. That's your problem, you need to look at how a municipal or hospital based system works, and I think you will be change your mind.

    If you want to work EMS in NJ, look at Jersey City EMS, UMDNJ, Monre Twp EMS, RWJUH EMS, Somerset Medical Center, UMDNJ-Camden, Union, Elizabeth PD, or any of the other big cities in the north. I don't know much about south jersey, but in central and north jersey, you absolutely can make enough money to live.

    And most places don't keep medics for every call, they are usually canceled if the BLS crew decides they aren't needed. I don't know how you operate in the AC area, but that's how we operate up here.

    I don't know if you are willing to leave your comfort zone and try something new, PM or e-mail me. yeah, you might have to relocate a little bit, and their is competition, so there is no guarantee of a job, but the good positions aren't' easy to get.
    In my younger days, I worked at both the MC and RWJUH. They are both class outfits. However, JC paid more. RW had better equipment. JC had a higher call volume. JC had PD on virtually every call (before the days of JCFD First Responder). Believe it or not, had more trauma with RW. Training ops were better at RW.

    Of course, that was a while ago, but I don't suspect much has changed.

    It was a little disconcerting that the BLS was getting paid about 1/3 of what the FD First Responders were...

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    Also look into Edison Township EMS, they have good pay and benefits. The FD just took them over. I heard its rough to get hired there though so I dunno if you wanna try there or not. I agree private EMS sucks, I made the mistake of working for rural metro a few years ago..thank god there gone!! That was the shortest length of time I ever held a job haha...I now work for a private ambulance squad in middlesex county. They hired fulltimers and per diems for their daytime coverage so its a good job right now...pay is pretty decent and we got a nice 4 on 4 off schedule.
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    BLSBOY: Not knocking ya, but how long do you have in that system? Have you done anything to try and make improvements? Yea, privates suck but I'll bet a lot of us started out there and realized it's a stepping stone to bigger and better things. It's funny how I almost look back with fondness at my BLS private days. Anything went, no rules, lotta fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wag11c View Post
    BLSBOY: Not knocking ya, but how long do you have in that system? Have you done anything to try and make improvements? Yea, privates suck but I'll bet a lot of us started out there and realized it's a stepping stone to bigger and better things. It's funny how I almost look back with fondness at my BLS private days. Anything went, no rules, lotta fun.
    Going on 8 months now. When I started, it was awesome to work. But more and more rules were implemented, paperwork became more, and we couldn't do the things we used to do. I do plan on making this a stepping stone, I learned alot, and plan on using that knowledge in Medic School.
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    I believe UMDNJ EMS is hiring for BLS in Camden. I dont know if you want to work there though lol but if where your at is as bad as you say it is then I'd check that out.
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    I had heard they were hiring, asked around, but need 3+ years urban experience. Oh well. Fla Medic school looks fairly good
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    ......"I agree, if you want to get hired as a career FF, get out of NJ."....

    That's not always the case. We've hired over 125 in the last three years. Departments are hiring, but your timing has to be right. And yes,as you stated, you do have to wait.

    I'm sorry things didn't work out. I wish you luck.

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    BLS wants to move to NJ.. . Free

    George says "NOOOO".. . His 5 cents worth.

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    I know I did. But I didn't want to come across with an "I told you so". I'm a jerk, but I am not heartless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by len1582 View Post
    ......"I agree, if you want to get hired as a career FF, get out of NJ."....

    That's not always the case. We've hired over 125 in the last three years. Departments are hiring, but your timing has to be right. And yes,as you stated, you do have to wait.

    I'm sorry things didn't work out. I wish you luck.
    If only waiting were all it took. Many good kids will never attain their dream job due to the minority BS and the residency rules. That is the real crime in the NJ career fire service.

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