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    Brk,

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    Nothing here either. I was thinking I may have screwed something up as well. This is taking a long time for a letter.

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    Alright thanks guys, that's a bit of a relief.

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    I haven't heard anything yet, either..

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    Be patient. They don't move very fast w/stuff like that around here. If you haven't heard anything by the end of the month, give Personnel a call.

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    No rush. Waited for 2 years, I can wait another month, or two or three...

    Besides, maybe by the time the list is finalized that residency "thing" will be taken care of!

    Hey Fieldseng,

    General question:

    Would you say that STLFD big picture wise is progressive or traditional? Just curious about what you have seen.

    I know the quint concept is considered progressive, but was it created because of budgets and staffing or to truly be progressive?

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    Would you say that STLFD big picture wise is progressive or traditional? Just curious about what you have seen.

    I know the quint concept is considered progressive, but was it created because of budgets and staffing or to truly be progressive?

    From what ive seen probably a little bit of both. When StL went to all quints back in the 1980's the city as a whole was going down the sewer, but was burning like the Bronx. In the mid 20th century, the population was around 800,000. We had 50 firehouses then.

    With social and economic decline, along with "white flight" the tax base and population fell in the 2nd half of the century. Now we have a residental population around 350,000, with a daytime popualtion well over 1 million.

    The fire department had to come up w/a way to provide 1st rate serice w/a 3rd rate budget....thus the quint concept was born. Although, Im a fan of traditional "engines and trucks"...the quint concept does work....if everyone does what hey are supposed to do!

    It looks like the city is coming back to life...LOTS of new constuction, redevelopment, and the population is on the rise again. I doubt the quint concept will ever leave St. Louis, but as the population, industry, and new consturction grows we may have to re-evaluate some of our strategy.


    There are still some struggles going on both w/the city and the fire department, but I still believe it's a great department to work for.

    Did I answer your question, or did I ramble off course?? lol

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    How exactly does a city with all quints operate? I work for 2 POC depts in WI and both have quints as their ladder trucks, but that's in addition to engines. Do they just dispatch you as an engine or ladder based on the call and who else is dispatched? Just a bit confused.

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    We have...

    30 Engine Cos. ALL are 75' quints. Staffed w/a a total of 4.

    4 Hook&Ladders. 2 are 100' tower ladders and the other 2 are 125' areials. Staffed w/a total of 4. All of these trucks are quints.

    2 Heavy Rescue Squads. Staffed w/a total of 6.

    When it comes right down to it 90% of the time the engines operate as an engine company. Hook&Ladders (truck co.) are almost always a truck company. The function of a company depends on the order they are dispatched and/or arrive at a fire.

    For a 1st Alarm fire....(non-high rise buildning)

    1st in Engine: Leads out w/appropiate attack line, makes the hydrant.

    2nd in Engine: Does "truck work". 2 FFs begin primary search, the other 2 throw ladders to the front and rear of the building. Forcible entry, salvage/overhaul.

    3rd in Engine: "Back up Water"...assists first in engine w/additional water if needed, assists w/attack line and/or pulls 2nd line off if needed.

    4th in Engine: "Backs up the Hook&ladder". Gives them a second supply line if they make a raise, helps with ventilation.

    5th in Engine: RIT. MINIMUM 4 man team w/RIT bag, TIC, additional rescue rope, and appropiate tools to gain access and rescue downed FF.

    Hook&Ladder: Ventialtion, primary search, forcible entry, salvage/overhaul,throws more ladders if needed.

    Squad: Forcible entry, assist w/ventilation, secondary search, salvage/overhaul. Secondary RIT.

    Depending on the structure and conditions you'll get 2-3 chiefs.

    High rise ops are similar...w/SOPS stating specific equipment companies will bring with them into the building, and which companies are making the standpipes and sprinklers.

    In any case, what seat you are riding depends on what job you have too.

    That is the Readers Digest Condensed version, but you should get the picture. Alot of people get bent out of shape about the quint VS. traditional, but as you can see, at least in our case, the only real difference is all of our engines have aerials on them. Occasionaly an engine might have to act as a truck if they are 2nd in. Thats the only real difference. If multiple alarms are struck, they send more Hook&Ladders.

    GFPD asked earlier if StL move to quints to be progressive or for budget constraints. I would say if we went back to the traditional way, we would have plenty of engines, and would have to come up with 5 or 6 ADDITIONAL Hook&Ladders. So it's not like we would have to double everything we have.

    What we really are short on is Medic units. We have 12, and could really use 24. Some Medic unis go on as many as 20 runs in a 24/period. Our M10 runs over 6,000 runs a year.

    The quint concept seems to work for us, I don't believe it would work for everybody. It still requires plenty of manpower, equipment, good water supply system, and other resources. If you only run 2 man engines out of a couple stations w/sparatic water supply I wouldnt reccomend it.

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    Thanks for answering fieldseng.

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    I got my letter today to test so they are out. Good luck to everyone else who applied.

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    Got my letter as well today, fieldseng, any idea on how many applied?

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    Still waiting to get mine, just curious is the testing date still July 19/20th range? Just trying to plan ahead a little and finalize my plans for the trip.

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    Thursday, July 19th, 0830....

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    Also, fieldseng, thanks for all your help. Do you have any more info on the rest of the hiring process post Fireteam test?

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    If you have any common since you will do just fine I took this same fireteam test 2 years ago and got hired on the dept that I am on now it is easy.

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    Havent heard how many applied, been too much other drama going on here. I will see if I can find out when I go in tomorrow.

    I never took the Fireteam test. The written test I took to get on here was retarded.

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    So does anyone know what is after the FireTeam (assuming you pass)? Is it the standard physical test, then oral board, etc...

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    Sorry, but what is the Fire Team test? Is it personality based? Reading? Video? Thanks.

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    it says in the letter what each part intails. i am test the 20th so i would keep those two day open for testing. The 19th and 20th

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