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    Thanks for the update clark, I've been wondering myself when these would be coming out glad to finally have some news. Good luck to everyone as well again.


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    The word that I've be told is that the test has been thrown out due to failure rate.

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    That is true I just got my letter today so I am sure everyone else should get their's soon. I think it is a bunch of B. S. but hey thatís all right they are just going to make the test easier and the results will be the same. I can't wait to see how they explain this. It should be interesting.

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    I Told Ya So

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    Wow so I just wasted a CRAP load of money flying down there for nothing.

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    It is true........

    A FF I work has a kid who is testing too. He got the letter stating not enough applicants passed the written test, and another test will be given at a different date.

    Although it did not mention it was because of racial makeup, one could speculate. The only issue that would trump this theory is the fire department has nothing to do with the hiring process. The entire thing is handled by the Dept. of Personnel. Last I heard, the relationship between the Dir. of Personnel and CFD was about the same as with Dept. of Public Safety Director. So, I would'nt think CFD had input on this.

    It is hard to believe out of 1,400 some applicants, less than 400 passed this simple test. This is why I feel they should't set limits on how many are on the list. If it's a list of 2,000 so be it. If it's a list of 200...so be it.

    They should also be setting higher standards to who can apply...ie. you must be an EMT and/or have college. AND if they would ever lift the archiac residency rule...you would get a much larger pool of qualified applicants.

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    Yea, I'd like to know if I passed or not. If I was one of 300 or so, then I'd almost of been guaranteed a spot. Those people that did pass, earned it. If anything I say throw away the video part, but keep that math, reading, and the critical thinking or w/e it was called.

    I'm definitely going to be emailing them and complaining. I doubt I will get anything out of it, but I spent a ton of money with airfare, hotel, taxi, and food.

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    The worst part of it is the people like yourself who came in from out of town most likely wont be coming in again and my guess is you are like myself and more qualified than most of the people who took the test it is not right.

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    Exactly. Also I don't want to be judgemental, but I know some of those people don't have the dream of becoming a firefighter. You could tell just by the way some were dressed and acted. Some may have thought it'd be easy and wouldn't have to go to college. Others just needed to test so they could get unemployment checks. It's going to happen when it's a big city like St Louis, which has a lot of poverty. It's going to be the same thing next time they test, and they have to realize it. Why not just take the people that passed? They did their work and deserved it. Or if testing is going to be a problem, then require things like FF1 or FF2 and EMT.

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    This is one of the stupidest things ive heard in along time!!! Why not just process the people who were intelligent enough to pass the test. Yea it was sorta difficult, Myself I didn't struggle and those who passed earned It.... it comes down to the Chicago and FDNY test and someone bit**ed cuz not enough passed is where im gonna let this fly in my own mind. I too spent alot of money traveling to take this test and now its just all thrown away. The city will definitely hear from me as well, However im sure nothing will come of it.
    Is there anything we can do as a group who believed we passed the examination.?

    well later

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    Contact # for St. Louis Personel Department.
    (314)622-4308

    I suggest everyone makes a call and voices an opinion at least because as someone else said the situation in St. Louis and the same thing will happen over and over again... sucks some people were too stupid and everyone else needs to suffer for it. Also guess it just shows the type of people they want working for there city

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    Default what the news said about the test

    http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_articl...storyid=128327

    I think it is a bunch of BS. Give the people who passed a chance. I thought the test went good. There has to be another reason they are not telling.

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    Isn't the test supposed to separate the people that should pass, and those that shouldn't? I'd say it was a good test because it did just that. I doubt there were only a 100 or so that passed where they can't make a list. Even if that was the case, then take those 100 and just run the test in 1 more year instead of 2 or 3.

    I feel bad for the good people of the St Louis FD, like fieldseng, that wants it to be a good place. Unfortunately they want to hire crappy people that don't deserve the job. I'd be mad even if I did already work there. I'm sure they will take a little more time to trust the probies since they know the FD isn't always taking the best. I also feel bad that they have a new officer each day because of that promotion problem.

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    I just wish there was some way to find out how we did on the test, they say there was an extremely high failure rate, well I want to know if I would have passed and how I would have done. I'm sure other departments are going to be using that test in the future or something similar to it so I'm curious on how I did, I feel like I did pretty well on it and thought I was at least good enough to pass it and make the list but if not I'd rather know I didn't so I know how much I have to improve next time I go testing for a department. It really sucks it's come down to this, a lot of wasted time and money but in the end it's just a learning experience that this kind of crap can happen, just wish they gave out the results so I can really learn from it and all...


    Want to say thanks fieldseng, all the info you provided was extremely helpful and just want to say thanks for everything. It's just too bad St. Louis didn't work out in the end.

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    Want to say thanks fieldseng, all the info you provided was extremely helpful and just want to say thanks for everything. It's just too bad St. Louis didn't work out in the end.
    Anytime I can be of service. It's really not a bad place to be...just going thru a rough time right now. I know we are not the only ones having troubles with the hiring process. Chicago is having issues as well as some other larger departments.

    If this happened when I tested, I'd probably say the heck with it too. I gave up 12 years seniority and a probable promotion to come here.

    It will certainly be interesting to hear the Dir. of Personnel's reason behind all of this when he is back in town.

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    Hey fieldseng2 is there any time frame when the new test will be? I know these things can take time. Also do you know FF A. Owens at station 2. He and I are from the same part of MO. I work in work in Northwest AR now as a FF.

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    I think it is a bunch of BS. Give the people who passed a chance. I thought the test went good. There has to be another reason they are not telling.
    The answer is right here....

    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...F?OpenDocument

    They are tired of being sued by FIRE.

    Hey fieldseng2 is there any time frame when the new test will be? I know these things can take time. Also do you know FF A. Owens at station 2. He and I are from the same part of MO. I work in work in Northwest AR now as a FF.
    No idea when the next one will be.


    Mr. Owens is on my shift. My company is in the same district as the 2's. Actually he has been "temporarily permantly" assigned to the Fire Investigation Unit...which runs out of my house. He actually had a pretty busy day yesterday. We also live in the same nieghborhood.

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    Hang on to your hats.............

    http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_articl...storyid=128743

    It's anybody's guess what will happen...even for yu guys.

    It ain't over till it's over..........

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    also note that this job listing has closed, in case somebody missed it in previous posts...lol.

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    Rumor on the street is the entry level program was thrown out because too many failed the reading comprehension and math. Hello?????

    The above article is about promotions. St. Louis Fire Chief Sherman George has just schuduled interviews for next week to promote.
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