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    Quote Originally Posted by SSIaerialmanTIM View Post
    Agreed Quint 23, it is a quality problem (not a design issue). Like I said It should have been caught. TL
    Agreed. If this is the prototype. It should of had everyone's eyes in manufacturing, management and engineering looking at it over and over. It is scary to think what a line product would get if this made it out for the world too see.
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    Default Crimson Unimog

    Picture speaks for itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Do you also think twice about Pierce aerials, LTI's, ALF's, etc? They've all had failures that appear to be the same reasoning...faulty welds.
    It's nice to see that some people realize "no one" is perfect and "no apparatus" is perfect.

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    I heard Brookings Crimson/Unimog was rejected and sent back to Crimson.

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    Default I think your right

    it's been sitting down in Brandon for a good long time

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    OOOHH that's a bad one. I've seen these for years in Europe, there are thousands of them in service and they work great if you use them the way they were meant to be used. The weight needs to be distributed equally over all four wheels. Somebody didn't do their homework. We have one in Kennett Square and it is a sweet machine. Runs like hell, stops great, plenty of power and goes anywhere in or out of town. Before we drew the first line we spoke back and forth with the guys who have been building them for years in Germany and Austria then we told Mike Lemuiex what we wanted, he scrambled it around however engineers do and Rosey built us a nice little TAC unit.
    As for the Brandon rig putting the two extra seats on that truck ruined it trying to use that large of a body and an extended wheelbase.

    Just my humble opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdmoreVFD View Post
    Picture speaks for itself

    So they run it with a plow all year??????

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    Not commenting in any way with regards to the issues that may or may not be present with the Unimog pictured, but I really like the name on the plow.

    "ASSALONI" Sounds like a part of a porn name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    Not commenting in any way with regards to the issues that may or may not be present with the Unimog pictured, but I really like the name on the plow.

    "ASSALONI" Sounds like a part of a porn name.
    would the first name be Levi ?

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    Well I think they rejected the truck altogether.

    You can about imagine what would happen if they removed the plow. There is just too much weight on that rear end.

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    A nice set of tractor weights up front would have looked better.

    This "thing" is like going to be with an ugly girl. Seems like the right thing to do at the time; but you eventually wake up and say "what the heck was I thinking".

    I wonder if this is really what Brookings wanted or was it pushed on them by the salesman. Between the two, someone should have stood up and raised the red flag.

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    Question Sound familiar to anyone?

    I find this thread very interesting! The Reason...no one has mentioned the Torque Box problems with Crimson's 103' aerials. We have first hand experience with this issue. The first crack developed within 3 months of delivery. Crimson's "Fix" (patch) for this "problem" (Design Flaw)....weld on more gusset plates and weld in the crack. As you can image the force was diverted to the next weakest location. It did not take long for the next crack to show up. Again, Crimson welded more gussets to a ,seemingly, very poorly designed and inadequately tested torque box. This is not an isolated incident. Each of our three 103' Crimson aerials have experienced the above "problems". Our understanding is that there are possibly 6-8 other 103' Crimson aerials out there having the exact same "Problems". Does anyone know of any other Crimson Aerials with similar issues? Click on the picture below to view the first crack to develope.
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    That looks pretty serious. Are any of the trucks back in service or are they having to cycle back through the factory for repairs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotaLemon View Post
    I find this thread very interesting! The Reason...no one has mentioned the Torque Box problems with Crimson's 103' aerials. We have first hand experience with this issue. The first crack developed within 3 months of delivery. Crimson's "Fix" (patch) for this "problem" (Design Flaw)....weld on more gusset plates and weld in the crack. As you can image the force was diverted to the next weakest location. It did not take long for the next crack to show up. Again, Crimson welded more gussets to a ,seemingly, very poorly designed and inadequately tested torque box. This is not an isolated incident. Each of our three 103' Crimson aerials have experienced the above "problems". Our understanding is that there are possibly 6-8 other 103' Crimson aerials out there having the exact same "Problems". Does anyone know of any other Crimson Aerials with similar issues?
    Now that is a design issue, good pic. Sounds like they are trying to step up and get it taken care of, but i see where you are coming from for sure.

    I once found a crack that was over 3 FEET long in a T.B. on an older aerial device (late 70's). I wrote it up and took the aerial out of service.

    The "Managing Engineer" himself called me and told me not to put it on the report "or else". Said he "was aware of it" and that the department needed that aerial in service! I told him he could change the report himself when he got it, because I sure as hell was not going to falsify the report.

    At least your not dealing with something like that! I wish you luck and hope they get it taken care of ASAP. TL

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    Don't worry Jim Salmi will come up with a fix on this product and the aerial frame. Pierce is dealing with replacing hundreds of pitman arms on the " Tak 4" suspensions before any wreck. They also dealt with the weld failure on their articulating aerial base rails that broke twice. These are complicated pieces of equipment and we abuse them. These manufactures are quality builders and most come out stronger and learn from what the real world abuses discovers.

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    By your title, I am figuring you have something to say about Crimson. What is your general opinion across the board? How hard do you run them? Are they stainless bodies? If so, how are the bodies holding up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotaLemon View Post
    I find this thread very interesting! The Reason...no one has mentioned the Torque Box problems with Crimson's 103' aerials. We have first hand experience with this issue. The first crack developed within 3 months of delivery. Crimson's "Fix" (patch) for this "problem" (Design Flaw)....weld on more gusset plates and weld in the crack. As you can image the force was diverted to the next weakest location. It did not take long for the next crack to show up. Again, Crimson welded more gussets to a ,seemingly, very poorly designed and inadequately tested torque box. This is not an isolated incident. Each of our three 103' Crimson aerials have experienced the above "problems". Our understanding is that there are possibly 6-8 other 103' Crimson aerials out there having the exact same "Problems". Does anyone know of any other Crimson Aerials with similar issues? Click on the picture below to view the first crack to develope.

    When we where specing and purchasing our tower I conversed with an operator out of one of the Texas dept.'s that Crimson told us to contact. All emails where brought to the committee and members had the same opion, bad news. This operators truck had numerous electrical problems and twisting of the top fliy on a 75'. The truck spent most of its 1st year out of service and still today spends alot of time in the shop.

    Always ask those who operate the units!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GotaLemon View Post
    I find this thread very interesting! The Reason...no one has mentioned the Torque Box problems with Crimson's 103' aerials. We have first hand experience with this issue. The first crack developed within 3 months of delivery. Crimson's "Fix" (patch) for this "problem" (Design Flaw)....weld on more gusset plates and weld in the crack. As you can image the force was diverted to the next weakest location. It did not take long for the next crack to show up. Again, Crimson welded more gussets to a ,seemingly, very poorly designed and inadequately tested torque box. This is not an isolated incident. Each of our three 103' Crimson aerials have experienced the above "problems". Our understanding is that there are possibly 6-8 other 103' Crimson aerials out there having the exact same "Problems". Does anyone know of any other Crimson Aerials with similar issues? Click on the picture below to view the first crack to develope.
    And i know this is a Crimson truck how ??????

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