1. #1
    MembersZone Subscriber

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    Jun 2005
    Sherman NY USA

    Default Pumper or brush/quick attack?

    We have speced out a mini pumper with a 1000 gpm pump and 300 gal. tank. I know the pump size makes it a pumper. Is pump size and amount of water both factor in. Does the amount of water make it a brush/quick attack?

  2. #2
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    Nov 2006
    Northern NY

    Default It's a Pumper based on pump & water

    It could also depend on whether you are following NFPA 1901 or NFPA 1906.

    From the Application's Help Section

    Vehicle Activity
    The following is a list of items that are eligible for funding in the Vehicle Activity. All equipment that is funded in this activity must comply with applicable NFPA, OSHA, NIOSH, Coast Guard, or ANSI Standards.

    Engine: (Pumper, Wagon and Foam-Pumper) an apparatus equipped with a fire pump of at least 750 gpm capacity, water tank with a minimum of 300 gallons. The apparatus must be manufactured and equipped in accordance with NFPA Standard 1901. Variations include:
    Foam Pumper
    CAFS Pumper
    Type I
    Quint w/ladder < 76 feet

    Brush Engine: (Grass Truck or Rig, Patrol, Attack, Mini-Pumper, Booster, CAFS etc.) a small apparatus primarily designed for fighting wild land fires and is often equipped with four-wheel drive to improve its off-road capabilities. The vehicle must be manufactured and equipped to comply with NFPA 1906.

    Tanker: (Tender, Tanker) a vehicle designed to transport large quantities of water to fires in areas without an adequate and reliable public water system. Tank sizes are normally 1000 gallons or greater with a pump with less than 750 gpm capacity and the vehicle must be manufactured and equipped in accordance with NFPA Standard 1901 for tanker. The vehicle may or may not be equipped with a fire pump.
    Foam Tanker
    Type 1-3

    Aerial: (Ladder, Truck, Platform, Snorkel, Articulating Platform, Telescoping Platform, Hook & Ladder, Quint) a piece of fire apparatus equipped with a ladder or other mechanical extension and is used to access heights in order to perform rescue and firefighting functions. The apparatus must be manufactured and equipped in accordance with the provisions of NFPA 1901 for aerial apparatus.
    Quint w/ladder > 76 feet

    Squad: (Rescue; variations include Light, Medium, Heavy) a piece of apparatus that is designed to carry specialized equipment to perform non-routine, technical rescues to include, but not be limited to, vehicle extrication, building collapse, trench or below grade, water, high angle, confined space, etc. Variations include:
    Light, Medium, and Heavy
    Technical Rescue Units

    EMS and Other
    Other: A specialized vehicle that includes:
    Air/Light Units
    Rehab Units
    Fire Boats
    Ambulance: a vehicle that is licensed and equipped to treat and transport the sick and injured to a medical facility.

    The following is a list of items that are ineligible for funding in the Vehicle Activity.

    Ineligible Vehicles
    Bull Dozers

    Wildland fire engine types
    Type Gallons capacity Gallons per minute (GPM) Crew size minimum
    1 400 1000@150psi 4
    2 400 500@150psi 3
    3 500 120@250psi 3
    4 750 70@100psi 3
    5 400 50@100psi 3
    6 150 30@100psi 3
    7 50 50@100psi 3

    Wildland fire tender
    Type Gallons capacity Gallons per minute (GPM) Crew size minimum
    1 5000 300 2
    2 2500 200 2
    3 1000 200 2

  3. #3
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    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Udall, Kansas

    Default 1000 gallon 4x4 with 250 gpm pump

    We are looking at a 4x4 chasis with a flatbed equipped with a 1000 gallon poly tank and a 250 gpm pump.

    It will only seat 3 so we are looking at how to classify.

    I already have 3 small brush trucks (250 gal, 250 gpm) and a midi pumper (400 gal, 400 gpm tank).

    I only have one tanker currently (2500 gallon with 1250 gom pump).

    I was looking at putting the new truck under a Type 3 water tender from the help page on the application site.

    Noticed in pull down only have type 1,2 or 4.

    Any sugestions?

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