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    HEEERRRREEEE we go again. Another person not reading the terms of use...

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    We've got some T3's and State Fire training does also.We've beat the snot out of these cameras and they just keep coming back for more.The MSA 5200 series and their newer cousin(5600?)are a nice camera as well. T.C.

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    We just went through the process of evaluating cameras. We reviewed the MSA 5600, Eagle 160, Bullard T3Max, Fire Flir (3M) and the Draeger 1600. We ordered the Draeger 1600. I am not recomending the Draeger camera, but I would suggest looking at it and all others that interest you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StealthFF View Post
    There is no such thing as a Bullard 5000. It is either a Bullard T3XT or a T3Max (if it has a thermal throttle, it is the T3Max). Of course it could be the new T4, but I doubt that is in the budget. MSA makes the 5000.

    How often do you do interior attack? If you usually show up in time to save the basement, I would go with the Scott and hope it doesnt break.

    If you go plan on going interior with the TIC, I would go with the toghest unit available. Have your reps come out and see who will abuse thier TIC in front of you. If they arent allowed to hold it over thier head and drop it, you might want to think twice about how ff proof it is.
    The comment here "I would go with The Scott and hope it doesn't break"? Are there known issues with the Scott 160 Thermal Imager?

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    We use GB Solo products, we currently have 2 solovisions in use and 2 s2's on order. We've found out of all cameras which we've treid and tested the solovisions give us what we need. Out guys can quite often find they need both hands in order to do there job and the solovisions can be strapt to there heads giving them the ability to have both hands free.
    We've found that with such as the Bullard T3, T4 or any tic which is basically a box on a stick, when used in a smokey situation we have found it hard to see the screen as the surrounding atmosphere intercepts our view. Has anyone else had this problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TravisKurt View Post
    We use GB Solo products, we currently have 2 solovisions in use and 2 s2's on order. We've found out of all cameras which we've treid and tested the solovisions give us what we need. Out guys can quite often find they need both hands in order to do there job and the solovisions can be strapt to there heads giving them the ability to have both hands free.
    We've found that with such as the Bullard T3, T4 or any tic which is basically a box on a stick, when used in a smokey situation we have found it hard to see the screen as the surrounding atmosphere intercepts our view. Has anyone else had this problem?
    Funny...I've been in a hundred or so fires (maybe more) with handheld TIs, and never had that problem. Thousands of FDs around the world have used handhelds without that problem. The US Navy has recommended handhelds for use in shipboard firefighting, failing to see that problem.

    I trust you have trained properly to overcome the tunnel vision and lack of peripheral vision that occurs with the Solo? I trust you have trained properly to overcome the inability to show the image to other firefighters and explain the situation?

    Funny how you point out Bullard only and "box on a stick." Trying to create a problem where there is none? Hiding an ulterior motive?
    My comments are sometimes educated, sometimes informed and sometimes just blowing smoke...but they are always mine and mine alone and do not reflect upon anyone else (especially my employer).

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    Funny,a T3 doesn't have a "stick".Nor have I had any interference in fire operations using a T3,sling and go.Same with the MSA's.Hard to see the screen? Guess I must be missin' something. T.C.

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    my dept just purchased a Scott Eagle 160 and a Scott Egale X. Both very nice camera's
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    The K1000 is pretty neat.... tried it a couple of times. I would trade the bullard anytime.

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    Try them all and buy the best most solid camera for the money. Don't get caught up in a bunch of features you dont need. We ended up going with the Scott Eagle 160. Does everything we need and we were able to buy three cameras for the price of two of the competitors we demoed. Just my two cents. Cheers

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    I want to thank everyone for their input. Just like the original poster, we are also a small rural department, and I got us a grant for a TIC. There is lots of useful information here.

    I have used a Thermal Imager before, but that was 1971, and it was built into an OV-1 aircraft. From 10,000 feet, I could tell if someone walking across the desert was male or female. The FLIR came with a tech rep. - A TIC will not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mongobob View Post
    I'm with a small volunteer department in northern Wisconsin. We've decided to invest in a TIC, and we're wondering which model gives you the best bang for your buck. Any opinions?
    Hello, I am on the job with Columbus Ohio FD and I work parttime for Morning Pride. I show departments our TIC, the Fire Warrior. I do trainings, and burns to groups who are looking to buy new TIC's. This is as no cost or obligation to the department. Just recently, a small Wisconsin FD called Markesan bought one of my cameras. I came up to Wisconsin twice for training and I know they love the camera. The Chief is named Tom Wilde. I can be reached at scott.sanders@totalfiregroup.com if you have any questions. Good luck with your seach.

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