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    Thinking about getting a new computer. I have a 6-7 year old Dell. This thing does not owe me a dollar. I helped it along for a while but it is getting tired. I am impressed with the new Intel imacs. I like the 24" one. Any thoughts?
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    My first computer was an Apple LC2.
    this is my 2nd PC... and it has been giving me problems.
    my next computer will be an I Mac!
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    I have crashed Mac's much more often than PC's. Personally, not a fan of everything in one computers. Any one part going makes the whole system useless. I like being able to replace/repair what needs to be replaced and not ship the whole unit back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    I have crashed Mac's much more often than PC's. Personally, not a fan of everything in one computers. Any one part going makes the whole system useless. I like being able to replace/repair what needs to be replaced and not ship the whole unit back.
    What he said. I had a Compaq Presario for a while. Same problem, once one part of the board goes, the whole thing has to be replaced.
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    I saw that this thread is about Imacs. Isn't he the guy on the radio that got fired for Dissing a girls basketball Team??
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    Thumbs up A vote for modern Macs and OS X

    There are going to be new iMacs coming out very shortly.. worth the wait if that's what you want. LED backlights are around the corner for LCD monitors... I think I'd hold out for that option too.

    I've never been partial to the all-in-one computers either. Actually, I was never partial to Apple. As a former Mac-hater, let me share my recent "switch" story and how that has changed.

    If you're TIRED of tinkering and dealing with problems routinely, get a Mac. I switched this past August after the Macbook Pro came out with Intel chips. I made three 200 mile round trips to the closest Apple retail store. If you've never been to one, stop by and browse sometime. On my third trip I knew that the MacBook Pro was the one, and I bought it there.

    One reason why I was finally willing to try OS X was that new Macs could run XP and Vista natively, just like any other PC. I figured I'd spend a good amount of time running XP.

    Well, I was wrong. Aside from booting into XP/Vista to run a windows-only accident report program, I have never had the need or felt the desire to use XP/Vista anymore. And with Parallels (or comparable) virtualization, you can access your XP/Vista drive virtually from within OS X and run XP/Vista in a window (or full screen)... if you absolutely had to for some reason. Since January, I haven't run XP/Vista for anything other than to impress fellow PC geeks.

    I'll never go back. There's absolutely no reason for me to. I've gone for months without needing to restart my computer. The "sleep" function actually works -- instantly. The hardware and software integration is tight. The experience is what personal computing should be like. Any hardware I plug in just works. Networking is a breeze -- I can connect to anything with ease.

    Apple uses the same hardware as other PC's. Apple's ARE PC's. You will find the same Intel processors in modern Macs. OS X is a robust, RELIABLE environment. It just works. Newbies, novices, amateurs.... I'd recommend Macs and OS X to them all.

    If you LOVE to tinker with system registry problems, reinstalling your operating system, spyware, viruses, loading device drivers... by all means, stay with Microsoft. If you have the need to constantly tinker with a more stable OS, go with linux, ubuntu, etc. I've tried those too. I used to love wasting time tinkering. BTDT. Most people don't like tinkering, and I don't like to anymore.

    My MacBook Pro is wonderful, and I have no regrets about the purchase. Apple beat my expectations by a wide margin. Just my personal, first-hand experience with MODERN Macs and CURRENT versions of OS X. Your mileage may vary.

    God, I sound like one of those Mac fans I used to hate!
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    PS - I'm not sure what Macs you crashed often, Bones, but I've had *far* more stability issues with PC's. Maybe older Macs and older OS's...? The new OS and product line are completely different animals.
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    I've got a PC with LEDs in the casing, and a clear plexi window on one side... who needs to wait for IMac?

    (and NO I did not design it - it came that way.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    I am running a Mac Probook right now. Idiot proof, easy to use.


    Sounds like it was invented just for Forums Posters..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Sounds like it was invented just for Forums Posters..........
    Chief, why do you think I got one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    Chief, why do you think I got one?
    I think HWoods might be thinking of getting one. that abacus he has been using (along with the slide rule he keeps in his desk) is getting pretty worn, and I hear the new software upgrade doesn't appear to be compatible to his current firmware
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrParasite View Post
    I think HWoods might be thinking of getting one. that abacus he has been using (along with the slide rule he keeps in his desk) is getting pretty worn, and I hear the new software upgrade doesn't appear to be compatible to his current firmware
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrParasite View Post
    I think HWoods might be thinking of getting one. that abacus he has been using (along with the slide rule he keeps in his desk) is getting pretty worn, and I hear the new software upgrade doesn't appear to be compatible to his current firmware



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    How in the hell do I get these extra beads on this thing...


    Read the Directions............ use a 3/32nds bit, drill a hole in each vertical frame of your Abacus, 1 inch down from the top. Tie a 8 turn Stop Knot in one end of the wire (Wire and Beads are in the upgrade kit), thread the wire thru the hole, load the beads on the wire, thread thru the other frame, and tie another stop knot......... Easy. (Maybe because I've done so many...... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrParasite View Post
    I think HWoods might be thinking of getting one. that abacus he has been using (along with the slide rule he keeps in his desk) is getting pretty worn, and I hear the new software upgrade doesn't appear to be compatible to his current firmware
    But does it run Windows?
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    The problem I've always had with Mac's is their cost. They're always significantly more expensive then their PC brethren. I'd gladly buy a Mac but not when its $1000 more then a equivalent PC.

    I recently heard that Dell was starting to ship units with Ubuntu. That's not a bad option IMHO. Most of the problems with PC's are with the operating system, not the hardware. Ditch Windows and they do fine. Ubuntu has come a long way to becoming an idiot-proof linux distribution. When I looked at it (2 years ago) the only thing I had problems with was the printer, which was easily solved looking at online forums

    And I love the Mac vs PC commercials...
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    The problem I've always had with Mac's is their cost. They're always significantly more expensive then their PC brethren. I'd gladly buy a Mac but not when its $1000 more then a equivalent PC.

    I recently heard that Dell was starting to ship units with Ubuntu. That's not a bad option IMHO. Most of the problems with PC's are with the operating system, not the hardware. Ditch Windows and they do fine. Ubuntu has come a long way to becoming an idiot-proof linux distribution. When I looked at it (2 years ago) the only thing I had problems with was the printer, which was easily solved looking at online forums

    And I love the Mac vs PC commercials...
    When the Mac crashes much less, has more memory, and looks cooler, its worth is. Trust me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    The problem I've always had with Mac's is their cost. They're always significantly more expensive then their PC brethren. I'd gladly buy a Mac but not when its $1000 more then a equivalent PC.
    Many breakdowns have shown that's no longer the case. If you compare "oranges to oranges" of what you're getting in similarly equipped Mac's and for example, Dells, Mac's are quite competitive. A good example is the "entry-level" Macbook. You get quite a bit fot $1099... and Dell can't touch that price on a software and hardware level, even with a watered-down level of Vista (fyi there is only one version of OS X sold).

    Piece for piece, feature for feature, Macs are no more expensive than comparable PCs and often less.
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    This was the discussion I was looking for. I really like the imac but I also like this Velocity Micro computer I saw at Best Buy. I am just scared to death of Vista.

    On top of all of this I am thrilled to be watching Verizon start to install Fios in my neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleWickman View Post
    This was the discussion I was looking for. I really like the imac but I also like this Velocity Micro computer I saw at Best Buy. I am just scared to death of Vista.

    On top of all of this I am thrilled to be watching Verizon start to install Fios in my neighborhood.
    Scared of Vista? I was scared of OS X!

    You worry if you're going to cut yourself off from the rest of the world if you go the Mac route. Compatibility, price -- it is tempting to see cheaper deals at places like Best Buy -- new interface, smaller user base, BAD experiences with old Mac's in the school computer labs... those almost swayed me away.

    I'd be surprised if you regretted a decision to switch. Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying OS X is perfect. There are plenty of little changes I'd like to see. The thing is, OS X is "more perfect" than other avalailable systems, including all the flavors of Vista. Apple releases updates and features routinely. The new version, Leopard, will be interesting to see in the upcoming weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resq14 View Post
    Piece for piece, feature for feature, Macs are no more expensive than comparable PCs and often less.
    Please don't confuse this for PC/Dell Fanboy'ism, but I don't think what you just said is quite true. Without a doubt Macs produce a better product, but you do pay for it.

    For example:
    Entry Level Dell Inspiron E1505 $899:
    Dual-Core 1.86Ghz Processor, 1GB RAM, 120GB HD, 15.6" Display

    "Equivalent" Macbook Pro $1999:
    Dual-Core 2.16Ghz, 1GB Ram, 120GB HD, 15" Display

    You have to look at the market that both companies typically target.
    Dell targets the "average" consumer who uses a computer to surf the web, check email, and maybe bills, photos..etc. (or in my case large Companies who buy in bulk)
    Apple targets the more media-savvy consumer and graphic designers who focus more on Adobe CreativeSuite-type applications. Photo, Sounds, video editing..etc.
    Both companies are starting to extend their targeted market toward the middle ground, hence the Apple commercials where the Mac is young and hip while the PC is old and clunky (actually a apt analogy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resq14 View Post
    Scared of Vista? I was scared of OS X!
    From a user experience point of view a Mac running Vista would suck just as much as a PC. A Dell running OS-X would probably work just as well as a Mac.. at least for the short term. (Dell's hardware quality being quite cheaper).

    BTW: Never.. EVER.. take a Graphic Designer to an Apple Store. My fiance' would kill for a Mac Pro w/Cinema display. Almost walked out of there with a 2nd mortgage..
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    I spend all of my days off on a computer. I do graphic design for Warner Bros Records (Word Entertainment). I can say I`'ve used Macs and all kinds of PC's and Macs are so much better.

    I'm typing on my 20" iMac right now (that can be taken as a innuendo)

    I'd prefer a Mac over everything else. You get world class support, you get amazing software that comes on the computer that isn't junk!

    I spend all day in Final Cut Pro, Adobe CS2 and CS3, iTunes, and other design software all at the same time. On a PC I wouldn't dare use Photoshop with another program open because it always slows down.

    *sidenote* for anyone doing graphic design or video mac's are a must not because of the software works so well but because the mac calibrates the users monitor to be as true to print or tv which is something the pc's cannot do.*end sidenote*

    Many people complain about Apple's price and how if they sold their computer's cheaper they'd have more market share. They currently hold 4% of the market share. The reason is they just do not want everyone to have their computers! They don't want to cheapen their brand which has grown to be a really strong brand. They are more of the BMW of computing while Dell is more of the Ford or Chevy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    Please don't confuse this for PC/Dell Fanboy'ism, but I don't think what you just said is quite true. Without a doubt Macs produce a better product, but you do pay for it.

    For example:
    Entry Level Dell Inspiron E1505 $899:
    Dual-Core 1.86Ghz Processor, 1GB RAM, 120GB HD, 15.6" Display

    "Equivalent" Macbook Pro $1999:
    Dual-Core 2.16Ghz, 1GB Ram, 120GB HD, 15" Display

    You have to look at the market that both companies typically target.
    Dell targets the "average" consumer who uses a computer to surf the web, check email, and maybe bills, photos..etc. (or in my case large Companies who buy in bulk)
    Apple targets the more media-savvy consumer and graphic designers who focus more on Adobe CreativeSuite-type applications. .
    You're comparing two different classes of computer... a Pro-line Apple to an entry-level Dell... I'm guessing you did it because of screensize. A better comparison is to compare a regular 13" Macbook to a 12" Inspiron with built-in camera. Don't forget things like Roxio add-ons to be able to make a DVD, Vista Ultimate (you get OS X complete), bluetooth, Wireless-N, etc etc etc. Once you consider all these little things, the difference between the two narrows -- except for price. $1400ish for MB vs $2300ish for Dell (both with same processor, video, HDD, and memory).

    Or

    Compare a Dell XPS 15.4" to an Apple MBP 15" (again, both with built-in cameras). I'm not going to bother charting it out, but I predict an Apple win feature-for-feature, and it will be someting like $2200ish for Apple and $2500ish for Dell. Sure, the Dell might have 6 USB ports... if you want a thick notebook computer, great. Yeah you can start watering down Vista and cutting back "mac-like software" add-ons... but...

    Look beyond the hardware aspect as well, like I said, feature for feature... it's the total package. You don't need to be an Adobe CS3 head or FinalCut guru to appreciate the simplicity of iLife, OS X, etc etc etc.

    Even if all you want to do is surf the web, check email, and maybe bills, photos..etc... it will be an infinetly better experience on a Mac. That's my first-hand, real world experience with modern Macs and OS X.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato36 View Post
    I spend all day in Final Cut Pro, Adobe CS2 and CS3, iTunes, and other design software all at the same time. On a PC I wouldn't dare use Photoshop with another program open because it always slows down.
    My fiance is in the same boat. She said CS on a PC is like kissing your sister. She came from a place where she did all her stuff on a Mac w/Cinema to her new job where she had to use CS on a PC. She's such a Mac fan she almost vomited in her mouth..

    ResQ, you're right about the screen-size. I didn't want to compare a 13" MacBook with a 15.6" Dell.. all other hardware being equal (processor/HDD/RAM).

    Again, I'm no PC fan. I think Mac's are great if I could afford one.
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