Ok, so why should our apparatus committee choose one over the other? Is the painted bumper more durable over time compared to the chrome bumper? Is it easier to repair dings and knicks to a painted bumper instead of a chrome bumper? Does a painted bumper provide more safety then a chrome bumper due to it being solid steel? Thoughts, opinions, suggestions????
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05-25-2007, 03:28 PM #1Forum Member
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Painted Bumper Vs. Chrome Bumper
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05-25-2007, 06:42 PM #2Forum Member
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Purely on looks alone I prefer the chrome bumper.
The advantage to a painted bumper is if it is damaged or scuffed up it is easily repaired.
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Can you get a chrome bumper shaped like a steel bumper with the angled corners like what Chicago and FDNY use? I think this is a good idea as that corner probably isn't getting a whole lot of use and it's one less thing to get busted off.
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It sure will stop truck damage better than chrome, Steel is the way i would go. TL
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05-25-2007, 08:59 PM #5
to match the other trucks?? might be a reason. a chief i worked under threw a fit when he seen the second F550 we got didnt have a chrome grill and wheel simulators like the other one. Chrome is no where in any book as a firefighting agent, that is what i explained to them. the money could be put to much better use than makin a truck ''pretty''
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05-25-2007, 09:45 PM #6
I believe that the painted or squared off bumpers are heavy duty steel bumpers that are super strong. I know sparton offers them because places like Dallas, Ft worth and Arlington are going to them. It sounds like they take one hell of a beating.
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05-25-2007, 10:16 PM #7
Just dip the heavy bumper in the plating vat.
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Spartan calls that there severe duty bumper. If I were buying a truck today, I think it would be the only way I would go. If you would happen to get into an accident, it would save your truck so much. If looks are an issue, you can get a Stainless Steel trim kit to go around the painted bumper. If I can find any photos, I'll post them here.
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05-25-2007, 11:39 PM #9Forum Member
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depends if your in a high traffic area and your chances of being in an accident are high I would go with steel also but I know from past experiences alot of manufacturers charge up to $2,000.00 or more for them
Low run little traffic tight budget I would go with chrome and spend the extra money on other needed equipment.
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05-26-2007, 09:09 AM #10
Aren't they both steel? 40,000 lbs moving at almost any speed coming in contact with something will damage whatever it hits. The "severe duty" and painted bumper deals are great marketing tools. If FDNY didn't get them how many little FD's do you think would have them now. Same with severe duty, who wants to be known as a light duty FD? So they strip the cab down, paint the bumper instead of chrome and charge you more money... beautiful!Does a painted bumper provide more safety then a chrome bumper due to it being solid steel? Thoughts, opinions, suggestions????
Kinda like the guy who invented extra large condoms... who's gonna pick the regulars off the rack now? Brilliant!
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05-26-2007, 09:27 AM #11
We ordered the painted steel bumper mainly for the smoother larger surface for the chevron striping. It is also about 3 times thicker steel than the chrome bumper. I know everyone has an opinion on whether one is better than the other or one looks better than the other. We could care less. What you see is our opinion.
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Last year our engine 4-2 was in a MVA on the New Jersey Turnpike at a toll plaza when a tractor trailer made a dead stop in front of us. The chrome bumper,front suction, Q2 siren, grill, front trash line, plumbing, were all pushed back into the cab, a red painted steel bumper would have been the same. After 2 months of repair at the KME plant & $ 100,000 in damage all is fine!...
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05-26-2007, 11:06 AM #13
Here's one with the patented Detroit Bumper.
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05-26-2007, 12:43 PM #14
http://www.northtexasusar.com/
Dallas has the chrome insert things on the severe duty bumper.
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05-26-2007, 12:46 PM #15
http://www.bensware.com/firetrucks/a...Rollover53.jpg
Here is an Arlington truck with the severe duty bumper after it hit a concrete barrier. They just put the new bumper on that truck a few months back. With the old bumper it would've pushed it into the cab more.
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05-26-2007, 12:49 PM #16
heres another one
http://www.bensware.com/firetrucks/corsicanaE1.jpg
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05-27-2007, 03:16 AM #17
As far as the big steel bumpers go, I believe it was either Chicago or FDNY who calls them "Cab Crushers".
Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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05-27-2007, 01:49 PM #18
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We went with the painted angled off bumpers for looks! We like it better. In my opinion nothing says "This is a parade truck" more than chrome. Regardless of actual price, taxpayers often think of chrome and bells as show stuff vs. functionality. Our trucks are designed to look like the war wagons they are. In fact it's become a slightly sore subject in our dept. due to the "no chrome or aluminum wheels (except as required for braking benefits on the Tower
). So we suffer with red painted wheels. If thats our biggest complaint... I'll keep my trap shut!
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Painted Bumpers
Toronto have adopted the "Chicago" style steel painted bumper to reduce damage to the apparatus and easier to repair and don't look that bad in either red or silver..
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