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    I am going to purchase helmet lights for all of my members. Can anyone tell me some good lights to use or any problems with any of the lights they use. Also do you think lights on the helmet are helpful.

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    for a few monthes now i have been useing two LED garrity lights with a strap on my helmet...

    http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr...le_flashlight/

    but i have found with the type of helmet i have (the modern style Bullard) that the lights do not stay in place that well and i am always having to reposition them, plus its not really that bright.

    last week i bought the Pelican 2400C StealthLite with the metal mounting bracket for the hemlmet...

    http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr...ries_included/

    http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr...style_helmets/

    i have heard good and bad things about having a helmet mounted light. its good because no matter where you look you have a light source pointing that way. but i have also noticed that in zero visability conditions it dosent help that much. i also also have the Streamlight Survivor LED and i depend on it more than i do the helmet light, but the helmet light is nice to have

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    We used helmet lights for years, but have drifted away from them lately in favour of Pelican Big and little Eds. We still have a bunch in service, but I haven't replaced any in a while.

    If you do want to try them, here are a few tips we learned over the years.

    1. 4 AA mini lights eat batteries like crazy. I would reccomend LED's to help with this.

    2. Buy the garritys that sit tight to the dome, or buy two, and mount on each side. The weight of one side only will drive you nuts.

    3. Don't use those long metal or plastic mounts as designed. Bend them to keep the light right beside the dome, or they will snag everything, and the tilt factor will be multiplied.

    I preferred a custom mount I made that had the light sitting tight to the brim under the visor hinge. Best profile, and no snags.


    The new helmets with the integrated light slot are slick, but reduce the space for those with big heads.
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    I had one mounted for a brief time, but after people complaining that every time I talked to them on a scene thew light would shine right in their eyes I decided to remove it. Now I just strap a rechargable light off the engine to my side where I can get it when I need it.

    Also, as mentioned above, while going through a black out maze with it on, it seemed to snag on every wire in the room. I also removed my visor and went to goggles after that.

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    I've got a Garrity on my helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    I've got a Garrity on my helmet.


    Makes two of us. Well actually it's sitting in a box right now, but when I get back on a dept it will be back on. QUACK QUACK
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    I have the old style of Garrity. I remember back when you could buy those for like a buck a piece...The last 2 I bought were 2.97 a piece. It holds up pretty well. The one I have now has the lense disorted, and the plastic on top is a little wavery from heat. But the light still works.

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    I've stayed away from a helmet mounted light because I learned the hard way a few times in an entanglement prop they're a PITA. However, Streamlight makes a rubber strap which allows a 4AA style light to be mounted through holes mounted in the strap. I think I get the strap for $3 for the guys that want them on the department, and this setup keeps the light "tighter" to the helmet than some of the other mounts.

    http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=83#

    A neighboring department is using a simple LED type "headlight" style setup like a Petzl unit mounted on their helmets, but on the cheap available from the local hardware store. Kind of neat idea - everyone turns it on while on a scene (MVC, fire) and you can see your folks and readily ID them as yours, they aren't as obtrusive as more powerful lights, and work great for seeing to write reports, etc.

    They look like these, but this isn't what they use:

    http://www.rei.com/product/736938
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    I lve my responder 4aa. I had it mounted to my helmet but my visor keep knocking it off. The metal holders work fine but they snag on stuff.

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    We use an LED version from Black Diamond... It's kind of been adapted from the rock climbing sport on over to our side. It sits up underneath the front brim of our helmet, and stil manages to stay out of the way of our TIC mount on the top lip of our brims. It's a nice little light head, with a remote battery pack that is hidden up between the suspension and the liner... 4AAA batteries, and it lasts for quite a while...

    Pretty bright, and yes, it annoys the hell outta the poor guy that you are talking to.
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    I never really cared much for helmet mounted lights. They always threw the balance off on my helmet and like others have said....snags on a lot of stuff.

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    Thumbs up blackjack light mount.

    I have tried the metal and plastic ones for on top. The best one I have found to date mounts under the brim. Its called the BlackJack. Here is a link to see it. http://www.fdcrescue.com/Store/index.php


    Mounts under the brim of my traditional and my metro. Its a little tight against the shield on the metro but the light with a recoil LED is amazing. As said in another post sometimes the light is right in the eyes of who you are talking to but the light has an off switch that helps avoid that. It doesnt stick out far enough to catch anything and is right in your line of vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWLAFireDawg View Post
    I had one mounted for a brief time, but after people complaining that every time I talked to them on a scene thew light would shine right in their eyes I decided to remove it. Now I just strap a rechargable light off the engine to my side where I can get it when I need it.

    Also, as mentioned above, while going through a black out maze with it on, it seemed to snag on every wire in the room. I also removed my visor and went to goggles after that.
    I agree, nothing worse than getting blinded or blinding someone else.
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    We have rechargeable streamlights attached to ours. They're pretty bright, even in smoke.

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    I go with an LED Garrity strapped to the side of my helmet for several reasons.

    1. It's cheap, if it melts it's a few bucks to replace, as oppsossed to the bracket mounted lights that costs $30 and upward.

    2. It countours to the helmet better and is alot less likely than the bracket mounted lights to get snagged on something,

    3. Personally I've noticed my LED garrity to last longer than the batteries in the bracket mounted lights.

    4. The LED garrity puts off plenty of light and accually cuts through smoke somewhat.
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    Problem with flashlights, in a good worker, you're not seeing anything regardless of how many lights you have strapped to you, so in our dep't, people are moving away from helmet lights and wearing Steamlights on our coats (LED or Halogen Bulbs), they are good in rescue situations too, because they are more easily aimed by hand than a light attatched to your head.

    and like i said, in a good fire, you're not really using your light anyway

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    The light of choice for us is Garrity. I have one one each side of my helmet I also carry a pelican light in my pocket. for greater distance.

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    UK4AA on the helmet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksfirefighter View Post
    I have tried the metal and plastic ones for on top. The best one I have found to date mounts under the brim. Its called the BlackJack. Here is a link to see it. http://www.fdcrescue.com/Store/index.php


    Mounts under the brim of my traditional and my metro. Its a little tight against the shield on the metro but the light with a recoil LED is amazing. As said in another post sometimes the light is right in the eyes of who you are talking to but the light has an off switch that helps avoid that. It doesnt stick out far enough to catch anything and is right in your line of vision.
    the blackjack rim is sweet. doesnt get in the way

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    Post Helmet light

    Two FFs in my department just got the helmet mounted LED light strip from Foxfury when they went to the Harrisburg show.
    I have only seen the light used at a night time extrication and they worked out ok. They lighted up the area where they were looking at and when they looked at you it wasn't so bright that it blinded you. I will be interested in seeing how they do in smoke before I give my complete opinion on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksfirefighter View Post
    I have tried the metal and plastic ones for on top. The best one I have found to date mounts under the brim. Its called the Blackjack. Here is a link to see it. http://www.fdcrescue.com/Store/index.php


    Mounts under the brim of my traditional and my metro. Its a little tight against the shield on the metro but the light with a recoil LED is amazing. As said in another post sometimes the light is right in the eyes of who you are talking to but the light has an off switch that helps avoid that. It doesn't stick out far enough to catch anything and is right in your line of vision.
    This would be my "Solution of choice" also.
    Having used a "Little Ed Recoil" for some time now I can't begin to describe how amazingly bright it is against the halogen lights.
    Also from having dealt with directly with Christopher McCorkle at 1445 Designs (the Company that makes the Blackjack) I can say that they are a top notch little company. This is truly a "made for firefighters by firefighters" item.

    http://www.1445designs.com/index.htm

    Disclaimer - I am in no way affiliated with 1445 Designs nor do I stand to profit in any way from the sales of their product.

    Also - if you have a Bullard helmet that uses their (IMHO Stupid!!) Blade Mount Technology to attach your goggles or Face Shield, then the blackjack will not work (as intended) with your helmet (ask me how I know )
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    Thumbs up Lights

    I am also using a Blackjack with a Streamlight 4AA LED. I love it. In fact several other F.F. has purchased the same set-up. The Blackjack by far is the best mounting system on the market. The only drawback is when you have the change the batteries, it's difficult to do so while the light is in the holder for that the Allen type set-screw is tightened down. I also use a Pelican Big-Ed 4C on my chest.

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    There are many different lights you can go with a full led light bar that mounts on the front of your helmet with strap to hold it on or a spy torch light with a rubber streamlight band that wraps around the helmet if you like contact me i am a dealer for fire eqpt.

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