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    Post ***Neck Burns***

    I would like to know if there are any reported firefighter injuries that were a result of the protective coat failure. Specifically if there were any burns to the neck involving gear manufactured by Securitex/Stx Protective Apparel. The bunker gear style has no neck/throat flap just a collar with velcro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul908 View Post
    I would like to know if there are any reported firefighter injuries that were a result of the protective coat failure. Specifically if there were any burns to the neck involving gear manufactured by Securitex/Stx Protective Apparel. The bunker gear style has no neck/throat flap just a collar with velcro.
    Doesn't your nomex hood cover your neck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul908 View Post
    I would like to know if there are any reported firefighter injuries that were a result of the protective coat failure. Specifically if there were any burns to the neck involving gear manufactured by Securitex/Stx Protective Apparel. The bunker gear style has no neck/throat flap just a collar with velcro.
    We have Securitex gear and as shi**y of gear it is ours has the flap you're talking about. And as xNinjaDolphinx says wear your hood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xNinjaDolphinx View Post
    Doesn't your nomex hood cover your neck?
    Yes it does, the collar however is non-adjustable and acts like a funnel.

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    I wear securitex, and have not had any issues with neck burns, getting hot, or water down my back, nor have I heard any complaints from the rest of the people in my crew who wear it.

    Ours is Kevlar, however, and I don't like the durability of it, or lack of.

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    When we stop using fog streams for interior attack, the amount of steam burn injuries like these will dissappear. A message to you from the the Committee of Common sense urging you to bury the killer fog.
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    What does a fog pattern and water running down a collar have in common?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    What does a fog pattern and water running down a collar have in common?

    They will both bring you to your knees! K.I.S.S. bring the ft-2 tip out for AFTER the fire. Smooth bore will prevent stupidity from burning the first hoseline team!

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    jonnyirons2...

    A combo nozzle is no more responsible for a steam burn than an axe is responsible for hitting someone in the head without someone operating it.

    Training, training, training is the iissue. Our primary nozzle is a 200 at 75 combo nozzle and we train on only using the straight stream for interior fire attack. Guess what? No steam burns caused by use of fog inside of a structure. None.

    The combo nozzle is just a tool and like any other tool it is the craftsman using it that determines the outcome of its usage.

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    Y'know how sometimes we see a new poster asking a leading question and go, "Reporter Alert! Reporter Alert!"?

    Well, if ever I saw a post from a lawyer trying to scare up a class for a tort case, this is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randsc View Post
    Y'know how sometimes we see a new poster asking a leading question and go, "Reporter Alert! Reporter Alert!"?

    Well, if ever I saw a post from a lawyer trying to scare up a class for a tort case, this is it.
    You know, I really had never thought about either of those until you said that.....I'll be on the look out more now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randsc View Post
    Y'know how sometimes we see a new poster asking a leading question and go, "Reporter Alert! Reporter Alert!"?

    Well, if ever I saw a post from a lawyer trying to scare up a class for a tort case, this is it.
    No lawyer here just a guy with 2nd Degree burns to his neck.

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    Smooth bore will prevent stupidity from burning the first hoseline team!
    Or training in the equipment you have, try it, it's all the rage. Not saying that's what happened to Paul908.
    Believe it or not, though what I'm about to say may be blasphemous, many fire departments around the United States manage to put out fires and keep there city from burning down with out smooth bores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul908 View Post
    No lawyer here just a guy with 2nd Degree burns to his neck.
    As asked before did you have your hood on?

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    Yes my hood was on full PPE

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    I thought (which I hate to do) all structure firefighting gear had to have the collar and throat strap, NFPA thing. The stuff you are wearing would not happen to be a USAR type gear would it? Not sure what model of Securi-junk we had but it was horrible. I would not have given it to my worst enemy to use as a grease rag. A year or so ago there was a thread talking about Securitex and a lawsuit I believe.
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    search securitex, you'll get the results your after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dday05 View Post
    As asked before did you have your hood on?
    Hood on, collar up, earflaps down, zipper closed, whatever. Conventional turnout gear is not a proximity suit. It doesn't matter what you're wearing if it's limits are exceded, whether intentional or conditions suddenly turn crappy, you can get burned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by len1582 View Post
    Hood on, collar up, earflaps down, zipper closed, whatever. Conventional turnout gear is not a proximity suit. It doesn't matter what you're wearing if it's limits are exceded, whether intentional or conditions suddenly turn crappy, you can get burned.
    I understand that! I've been there before. Seems like this person needs to explain more of what happened. I am glad though that he is ok!

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    Maybe his chin was in his chest as he was crawling allowing hot water to get on his neck. I've had that happen. Keep chin up and water will be deflected by helmet brim. Just a thought.
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