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    I am desperately looking for a leather helmet, and I am wondering what the difference is between a Phenix leather, and a New Yorker? Any help is appreciated. I'm leaning to the New Yorker as my partner has one.


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    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...met+pic+thread


    I have had both. I currently have a Phenix and love it!

    The last few pages of the thread above have several TL-2s and good info about them.




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    Thanks for the assistance.
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    What are the price differences between the two?
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    Phenix TL-2...$429 with Bourkes and a shield made to your order.

    Cairns N5A...$450 plus the cost of a shield.
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    Great, thanks for the info. I believe that I am going to go with the N5A Natural. I don't like the idea of spending that much money, and my paint chipping off, plus I wear a different color helmet at one of the department's I work with. That should solve that issue. My partner at my FT FD has a N5A, and I really like it.
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    You'll be very happy with it.
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    I recently bought a Cairns N6A Deluxe model ( ESS goggles, Bourkes, and carved eagle) from The Fire Store and it was $599.99 shipped. The N5A and N6A are identical externally; the only diff being I believe the N6A has an extra lexan dome over the impact cap to satisfy NFPA. The Fire Store are great to deal with if you're going to go with Cairns, they have them in stock, and shipping is fast.

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    I am going to purchase the lid through thefirestore.com as one of my departments has payroll deduction to order things through them.
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    New Yorker- Heavy/ for looks
    Cairns-PERFECT

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    alpha, the New Yorker is made by Cairns...
    These are my opinions, not those of my career department, my volunteer company, or my affiliates. And by the way, I'm not a Junior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFDjr1 View Post
    alpha, the New Yorker is made by Cairns...
    oops. i meant the 660c.

    so what i meant to say,

    new yorker-heavy/ for looks.
    cairns 660c-perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha4 View Post
    oops. i meant the 660c.

    so what i meant to say,

    new yorker-heavy/ for looks.
    cairns 660c-perfect
    *pimp slaps alpha*

    Oh, I know you just didn't go there.
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    I have used the N5A, old style, and the new and improved? N6A.

    I would take the old N5A hands down over the N6A, mostly due to weight. The difference with the new N5A and N6A is negligible.

    Personally I wouldn't lay that kind of money out for a leather helmet. Buy a traditional look alike from Cairns or Morning Pride or Paul Conway or Chieftan or anyone and save yourself about 200 bucks.

    Sorry leather heads, almost $500 is too much for a helmet. Besides if you buy a look alike you still have enough money left to buy a pair of leather boots!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Sorry leather heads, almost $500 is too much for a helmet. Besides if you buy a look alike you still have enough money left to buy a pair of leather boots!!

    FyredUp
    Or you can be in a department that issues leather boots, thus leaving you the money to buy a leather lid .

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    Look for an old Cairns N5a on Ebay, get it refurbed by Chris at Signal50.com I have an n5a made in 2001 and its a big difference from my N5's that I have from the late 70's and early 80's. I believe 1992 models to be the best looking.

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    Okay, prepare for a dose of blasphemy.

    Someone please explain to me why a leather helmet at more than twice the cost is better than a look a like composite helmet.

    No hype, no tradition, no because it's cool...facts on what makes it better. I am dead dog serious about this.

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    I guess it just depends on your likes and dislikes. I would have never been able to afford a leather with a young family. But mine was a gift from my Mother, Wife and Uncles. Both of my uncles are on the "job" and my grandfather was also. It has always been a family tradition in my family that if you pass the academy you get a leather helmet as a graduation gift. I agree with an above post the leather boots are so worth it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Okay, prepare for a dose of blasphemy.

    Someone please explain to me why a leather helmet at more than twice the cost is better than a look a like composite helmet.

    No hype, no tradition, no because it's cool...facts on what makes it better. I am dead dog serious about this.

    FyredUp

    It's kind of like the difference between a $15,000 Harley and a $2,000 Vespa scooter: both have 2 wheels, both have handlebars, both have a motor, and both will get you from point "A" to pont "B"...but what would you rather have your friends see you on? LOL

    Yeah I know, you wanted a no BS answer, but I quite frankly don't have one...i think it's a personal choice of how much money you think is too much to protect your gourd

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