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    Default Some Mixed Feelings Over This One

    Even though it is not my country, nor my service, as a member of an armed service, well... I dunno. On one hand I say fry the bahstahds, because a disciplinary example should be made. On the other hand, I somewhat agree with the overall comment of "it would be a poor use of time to go after them"....

    Military Makes Little Effort For Deserters. Desertions On The Rise

    POSTED: 7:09 am EDT June 29, 2007

    FORT BRAGG, N.C. -- Despite a rise in desertions from the Army, military figures show that the military does almost nothing to find those who flee and rarely prosecutes those it gets its hands on.

    An Associated Press examination of Pentagon figures shows that 174 troops were court-martialed by the Army last year for desertion. That figure amounts to just 5 percent of the more than 3,300 soldiers who deserted in the 2006 fiscal year.

    Some deserters are simply allowed to return to their units, while the majority are discharged in non-criminal proceedings on less-than-honorable terms.

    But Pentagon officials said the number of deserters represent an extremely small percentage of the armed forces, and it would be a poor use of time to go after them.

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    Small percentage or not, busting them serves to set an example. I always enjoy reading about the ones that get caught years later, finding themselves in the brig for six months as Pvt Schmuckatelly at the age of 55 waiting for their admin separation to come through. Maybe it's just more fun catching them down the road when they believe they are in the clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Small percentage or not, busting them serves to set an example. I always enjoy reading about the ones that get caught years later, finding themselves in the brig for six months as Pvt Schmuckatelly at the age of 55 waiting for their admin separation to come through. Maybe it's just more fun catching them down the road when they believe they are in the clear.
    Yer a sick bahstahd Gunny, but I like it I can point you to a place called Saltspring Island, just off the east side of Vancouver Island - about 3 or 5 miles from a place called Swartz Bay (that would be the nearest ferry terminal and marina). There are several (I would guess at maybe 100) former US citizens who fled from being drafted for Vietnam. Not sure how many might be actual deserters, but I know the Islanders are "proud" of what they stood/stand for. Bunch o pot grow'n, sheep shear'n.... well you get the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    I can point you to a place called Saltspring Island, just off the east side of Vancouver Island - about 3 or 5 miles from a place called Swartz Bay (that would be the nearest ferry terminal and marina). There are several (I would guess at maybe 100) former US citizens who fled from being drafted for Vietnam. Not sure how many might be actual deserters, but I know the Islanders are "proud" of what they stood/stand for. Bunch o pot grow'n, sheep shear'n.... well you get the picture.
    Sounds like a target rich environment. You may fire when ready, Gridley.

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    I have always said that in an all-volunteer army, they can't force you to fight or kill in any particular conflict, but once you sign up you owe the country your time. IMHO You can choose to serve it with honour in your unit, or dishonour in the brig or some other BS base job at private-grade pay. You can earn your contract fighting, or cleaning toilets (not to belittle the janitors out there ).

    I think to let them flee scott-free is a huge slap in the face to those who swallowed thier fear or conscience, and fought and died under the flag of thier country.

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    I have the perfect place for them:

    http://usacac.army.mil/CAC/usdb.asp


    I mean for crying out loud........You want to puss out on your commitments as a man? Go smoke a joint and then go into your First Sergeant's office and say I smoke pot and I want out. They'll give it to you. Had a guy in my Company do it.
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