Did you ever think that as an expolrer or junior that you have done more than an average firefighter on the job longer than you? For an example the fire fighter was lazy, never clean the fire house, always have an excuse for even the little things, or never change the scba and told some one else to do it when clearly the higher officer told him to do it. please post.
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06-29-2007, 03:27 PM #1Forum Member
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06-29-2007, 04:30 PM #4
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06-29-2007, 04:37 PM #5Forum Member
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No don't get me wrong I am not talking about firefighters about doing more on the job, I myself believe that fire fighters do even more than explorers and juniors, my point is just some of the simple task around the firehouse just have an excuse for every thing, and I guess I respect you a little because of what you do for your town or city as a firefighter. Also, I myself do not have a problem with doing tasks around my firehouse.
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06-29-2007, 05:23 PM #6Forum Member
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I'm gonna let you in a little secret.
As a junior, or explorer, you are low man on the totem pole, and as such, you will catch all the crap work. That's the firehouse hierarchy. Chief> ASST Chief>Deputy>Captain>Lieutenant>Engineer>firefighter>probie>junior/explorer/cadet.
Though to be fair, I've never trusted anyone else to fill my own bottle for me, or do my equipment checks. If i have the juniors do the equipment chack, i stand right there with them, and quiz them on what their doing to make sure they didn't mess up.
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06-29-2007, 06:36 PM #7
I put in more time as a Junior than 80% of the members on the dept. Sadly the dept's members only want to run calls and not do any of the other aspects involved in firefighting.
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06-29-2007, 08:48 PM #8Forum Member
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1stdue, it's the joy of being a Junior/Explorer/Probie. Suck it up.
I am in no way putting Probies at my level. I'm just using it to get to my point that Juniors/Explorers get the little jobs that a Probie gets that no one else wants to do.Firefighter/EMT
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06-29-2007, 09:14 PM #9Forum Member
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Not around here junior. Stop and think for a minute where those firefighters came from and the time that they put in to get where they are LONG before you ever came along.
After reading all of your posts in the thread I sort of see where you're coming from, but chances are even as a well involved junior there is a lot more going on and a lot more that these guys are accomplishing than you get to see. The way that you post just sounds insulting and arrogant. Take the advice that everyone has given you, suck it up, and maybe one day you'll find yourself in the role of a full fledged firefighter. When that day comes I'm sure you wouldn't be too pleased to hear some 16 year old saying that they do more than you around the firehall...
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07-04-2007, 02:15 PM #10
HOLY CRAP IT'S NICE TO HEAR FROM YA BROTHER!!!!!!
I would like to reiterate all that my brother Chris has said above. He is the man and has seen some action before/
If you are quick to take crappy jobs around the station it will get noticed. But treat these forums like a firehouse, when you bitch here people get ****ed just like they would at your station. And you also might want to be careful because, while I know that you have said nothing bad or anything and you seem to have a level head on your shoulders, you never know who reads these forums.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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07-04-2007, 09:03 PM #11
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07-05-2007, 12:11 AM #13
No super junior, I'm pretty sure that we do three times the work as you do. Shouldn't you be cleaning something.
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07-05-2007, 01:24 AM #14Forum Member
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Here is my take on this.
When I was an Explorer and the way the post still is, you didn't do ANYTHING unless you were on a ride along at the station. If we trained with stuff during drill night, we would clean it and put it back. That hasn't changed.
I'm with a career dept here and every FF is responsible for their own equipment. You come in, put your gear on the rig, check your SCBA, flashlight, and radio and then as a crew you do rig checks and house cleaning.
If an Explorer is riding along they help with daily routines and then for the most part observe. Personally when I was an Explorer, I saw it as an honor to be with the FF's and to actually feel as part of the crew. The volly depts with such programs to me would be a similar honor as well.
So really...quit the bitchin'...stop the complaining of how YOU as an Explorer, Cadet, Junior do more work than the regular FF's. Consider it an honor that you even get to be at the firehouse and actually assimilate with the regular FF's. One day you may attain those ranks, and no, they don't need to keep you there if the attitude is wrong. So basically, do what your asked of without complaining. If Joe Regular FF is passing the buck...suck it up. The rest of the FF's see who is working hard and see the ones slacking. The also know the jr FF's who work hard and those that talk hard.
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07-05-2007, 01:55 AM #15MembersZone Subscriber
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Yes, there is the occasional lazy-*****ed firefighter. But even that guy has probably already defeated demons that crapped bigger than you. Be glad that you are one of the 0.0002% of the population that ever gets close enough to the profession to even observe that much.
My advice to you (unless it is already too late): Don't ever let that thought slip past your lips at the station. Never miss a good opportunity to shut up.
I'll just leave it at that.You only have to be stupid once to be dead permanently
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07-05-2007, 10:12 AM #16
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