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    Exclamation Morning Pride Ben 2 plus question?

    Hey I would like to get a Morning Pride Ben 2 plus with the new nfpa approved easy flip bourkes, and I need to get the helmet approved by my department before I go out and buy it, I was wondering if anyone has a spec sheets on the helmet or any paperwork listing what approvals it has (NFPA, OSHA, ANSI, etc...)

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    Bourkes are not NFPA approved.

    Try searching for "bourkes" and I'm sure you will find more than enough of what you are looking for.
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    The new EZ flips are approved. The Ben 2 is OSHA, and NFPA approved for structural use. Best place to go is just look up a morning pride dealer, and get the helmet specs from them.

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    Oh, I gotcha, the new fighter pilot kind of deals.....

    sorry....I'll be over here if you need me.
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    Not quite the pilot deal, that's the Cairns defender visor. I've seen those too, and I'm not entirely sold on them yet.

    The EZ Flips are a Bourke type shield. They look a little bigger than standard bourkes, and they are NFPA approved unlike regular bourkes.

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    Call Total Fire Group and I'm sure they will send whatever you need if it means they will be making a sale(s) from it.

    The ez flips look essentially just like Bourkes (which the paten for those belongs to Cairns I believe) and are NFPA approved.

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    If you haven't already, I would search and get some opinions on the Ben 2. My department decided to change our standard issue helmet to the Ben 2 and purchased 6 of them. After about 6 months, we decided to go with the Cairns 1010. We were very displeased with the durability. I personally wear a Cairns N6A on duty and have a backup 1010 for live fire training. Couldn't be happier.

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    I couldn't be happier with my Benny 2. Fits like a baseball hat, doesn't hurt my head, make it itch, and even stays on upside down without the chin strap on. Tried a 1010 and just liked the fit of the Benny better.

    All personal preference.
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    We wear the Ben II, and a buddy on a neighboring dept has a cairns lid and it fits /feels better then the BenII.

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    I'm concerned about any helmet that has an impact cap in it. They are only needed because the shell itself isn't as strong as one without the cap, like the Ben 2. Plus, I've seen pictures of a firefighter coming out of a burn where his Cairns helmet's shell released and left him with practically nothing on his head. They advertise the shell release system as a safety feature, but I don't see how having your helmet's shell release from the harness increases your safety.

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