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    Anyone know where i can view this information?

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    Firehouse Magazine does their annual run survey every year, try that.

    I'm quite sure that at least 2 or 3 of the 100 busiest are here in my area. My station did around 7,200 in '06, and when all the numbers are in, we should have several stations with over 10,000 runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Firehouse Magazine does their annual run survey every year, try that.
    The only problem with FH's survey is they only take the busiest form each department. The means if FDNY has 3 engines that each do 10,000 runs, only the busiest makes it to #1. Similarly, if PG Station 33 is the busiest volunteer engine, and PG Station 18 is 1 run behind them, they don't make the list, because only the busiest gets submitted, even if the # 2 and 3 are busier than other departments in the nation.
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    The other problem is that different departments may count runs differently.

    We have had this discussion before, but one department may count a response from a 2 company house to the same location as one run, while another department may count it as 2 runs, as 2 companies actually responded even though they were from the same house.

    Anytime you look at run data you have to make sure everyone is on the same page as far as the way the data is tabulated.

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    Can't remember what engine company it was but it's located in downtown San Francisco. I believe that's the busiest in the nation.

    Skid Row LAFD has got to be real close behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKDRAFT View Post
    Can't remember what engine company it was but it's located in downtown San Francisco. I believe that's the busiest in the nation.

    Skid Row LAFD has got to be real close behind.
    I believe you are incorrect. I believe DCFD Engine 10 was 2nd busiest engine, with the busiest being an engine in St. Louis Mo.
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    Not to get in this fight but I believe in last years firehouse run total that a San Francisco engine comp was the busiest.

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    Yeah DC's 10 engine was the 2nd busiest last year:

    http://www.firehouse.com/mz/images/2006/7/engine.pdf

    I'd probably vote the 10 engine as the busiest overall though, considering they're always up at the top..



    As for the entire station, not sure since they only do individual apparatus for that..

    According the firehouse, a baltimore(MD) county station gets the nod.
    http://www.firehouse.com/magazine/su...t3/station.pdf

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    Engine 99 Ladder 62 or Squad 55

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    Also, in regards to Firehouse Magazines run tally, not all career departments send in their information to be added, because you know, that's not cool, it's too buffy wackerish for some high and mighty career departments, so the results are really not accurate.
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    Not to burst your bubbles. Not every fire department sends back the information to Firehouse on runs and etc.! Some I know of toss the form into the trash and keep on doing their work, while other will make an attempt to fill out the survey and then you have those who will put down any number to make it look good! The run survey and other stuff that Firehouse is showing from cities and counties as about 90% true and correct, 5% is all BS some body has wrote down and send back to them, while the other 5% the survey isn't returned at all.

    So who knows who is the busiest Engine, Truck, Rescue, Battalion or Ambulance??

    Even the info send to NFPA may be off by some degree, if the person doesn't have all their heart into completing the survey correctly!

    When I had that task of doing this for various agencies, I always used the information that was extracted from the CAD system.


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    it's too buffy wackerish for some high and mighty career departments, so the results are really not accurate.

    Or, just maybe these same 'high and mighty career departments' are too busy trying run their respective departments. Maybe they are trying to make their ends meet on reduced staffing, reduced administrations, and maintain a high level of service, and this survey falls to the bottom of their priority list.

    The results aren't accurate for many reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGNAL99COM View Post
    Also, in regards to Firehouse Magazines run tally, not all career departments send in their information to be added, because you know, that's not cool, it's too buffy wackerish for some high and mighty career departments, so the results are really not accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Or, just maybe these same 'high and mighty career departments' are too busy trying run their respective departments. Maybe they are trying to make their ends meet on reduced staffing, reduced administrations, and maintain a high level of service, and this survey falls to the bottom of their priority list.

    The results aren't accurate for many reasons.
    I know, it's tough to find 3 minutes a year to fill in eight boxes with some numbers.
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    Right off the top of my head- Some busy West Coast FDs-

    -Clark County, NV sta. 18
    -Las Vegas, NV sta. 1
    -Orange County Fire, CA sta. 22

    As for LA City and County, I dont have the info.

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    I believe the last Firehouse Run Survey had Fort Lauderdale Fire-Rescue Station 2 as the busiest in the nation with something in the area of 24,000 runs. This is done by adding all the runs of the individual units in the station: 2 Engines, 2 Rescues (Ambulances), 1 Ladder, 1 Battalion Chief, 1 EMS supervisor, and 1 Division Chief.

    Like others have said though, everyone counts them differently, many departments dont participate...so who knows how accurate anything is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGNAL99COM View Post
    I know, it's tough to find 3 minutes a year to fill in eight boxes with some numbers.
    Did it ever occur to you that some departments just don't care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGNAL99COM View Post
    I know, it's tough to find 3 minutes a year to fill in eight boxes with some numbers.

    Believe it or not, there are a lot places that couldn't care less about who is the busiest. Believe it or not, not every department has the people to worry about filling out your little eight box survey. I mean, I know our guys here on the third floor are more worried about some survey than they are about grant writing, or working out RIT policies, or exploring other ways to make my job safer.

    You're right though, I would much rather have them sit around all year waiting for that survey to come out. What was I thinking?
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    EMS runs dont count. If you want busy stations, EMS shouldnt be in there. Its a service that gets dumped on the Firehouse cause of our so called, 'downtime', which is always spent doing something constructive to our trade.

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    Without getting into the EMS in the fire service debate, to say that EMS runs shouldn't count is a rediculous statement.

    The fact is that EMS is a part of the fire service, and for many places, EMS responses far outnumber fire responses and quite frankly, justify the existence of paid staff.

    EMS runs have just as much weight as fire calls when looking at how busy a company is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrParasite View Post
    I believe you are incorrect. I believe DCFD Engine 10 was 2nd busiest engine, with the busiest being an engine in St. Louis Mo.
    Actually you are incorrect if we are going on the firehouse.com surveys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Without getting into the EMS in the fire service debate, to say that EMS runs shouldn't count is a rediculous statement.

    The fact is that EMS is a part of the fire service, and for many places, EMS responses far outnumber fire responses and quite frankly, justify the existence of paid staff.

    EMS runs have just as much weight as fire calls when looking at how busy a company is.
    EMS runs don't count. Nobody wants to be on the company doing 4000 bs ems calls and no fires. Nobody wants to go to the house bragging about how many tummy aches they ran last year. No bragging rights go to a company that does 6000 runs if the company doing 2000 catches more fires. I would be willing to bet that 90% of firemen couldn't care less if they never did another ems run. That you don't understand this most basic fact is no surprise to me.
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    Well said! We all know what EMS stands for. Engine Moves Slowly!

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