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    Default SOP needed for Diesel Exhaust System use

    Our department is currently having diesel exhaust systems installed into our fire stations.

    I need to come up with an SOP for the systems pertaining to usage and making sure that the firefighters use them.

    Does anyone have a sample SOP that I can take a look at.

    I do not know what all will be incorporated in our SOP yet, but after looking at some others I will have a better understanding.

    Post it, email it, or link to it.

    Thanks in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FireFleitz View Post
    Our department is currently having diesel exhaust systems installed into our fire stations.

    I need to come up with an SOP for the systems pertaining to usage and making sure that the firefighters use them.

    Does anyone have a sample SOP that I can take a look at.

    I do not know what all will be incorporated in our SOP yet, but after looking at some others I will have a better understanding.

    Post it, email it, or link to it.

    Thanks in advance.

    In all honesty what will this SOP contain?

    -When backing in to quarters have chauffeur pause to allow someone to afix said tube to exhaust.
    -When pulling out...it automaticly disconects.
    -If broken or malfunctioning...call buildings or whomever...and fill out appropriate exposure reports for the members.

    Perhaps I'm missing something, but are you overthinking this a bit?

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    We just had them installed in our 2 stations.

    SOP is as follows:

    When backing the vehicle in, connect the exhaust system.

    When running the vehicle for maintenance, etc. turn the system on. When done, turn it back to automatic.
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    Yeah, I guess this is basically the information.

    I was kinda stumped too. That is why I asked what others might have had written up.

    Anything else?

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    Tell the men that exhaust is a carcenogen and the vent system will keep them healthier longer. That should be all you need to do. There doesn't need to be an SOP for everything.

    This is not an attack, just an opinion.

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    [QUOTE=EGH128;834482] There doesn't need to be an SOP for everything.

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    You never know with some of the people we deal with. Hooking the unit up shouldn't require much thought and or skill but you never know.

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    We actually have an SOP for this, and FFFRED pretty much nailed it, he only missed two. It also states, don't run the engine higher than idle speed while attached because it may damage the system, and don't stand at passenger side where it will disconnect when the rig pulls out.

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    I was thinking about the overthinking ..........we dont have a P&P either. Stop attach hose, look for person to spot you back ...........done.
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    We don't have an SOP, but a general notice that the apparatus must only be connected after it backs in fully and is shutdown. The minimal exhaust dangers from a warm engine coming in are far less than at start up and it's safer than having personnel attempt to connect the pipe then continue to back in.

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    Write a procedure, saying that when the truck backs into quarters the hose will be attached! When running the engine of the truck it in quarters the system will be turned on. Otherwise it will stay in the automatic function.

    Have all members read and sign the procedure and file it in the company files.

    Take the members by the hand and show then how to attach the exhaust tube to the exhaust pipe.

    Pretty simple.



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    Does this work for ya?


    City of Asbury Park Fire Department
    Standard Operating Guideline

    Date Issued: September 19, 2006
    Date Last Revised: NEW
    Revision Number: NEW
    Total Pages: 2



    Purpose: To establish the proper guidelines for operating the Diesel Fume Extraction
    Systems located in our Department's facilities.

    Scope: All members of the department shall follow this guideline. Deviation from the
    guideline could cause injury to personnel and failure of the system to provide the level
    of air quality desired.

    General: In an effort to improve the air quality of our facilities and to reduce the spread
    of diesel fumes into the living areas, onto protective clothing and most importantly into
    employee’s breathing air, the Department has installed Diesel Fume Control Systems in
    our facilities. All employees assigned to apparatus that utilize bays fitted with these
    control systems shall follow guidelines at all times.


    Operating Guidelines

    Upon approach to the apparatus bay, the vehicle shall come to a stop as
    close to the doorway as possible. Once the vehicle has stopped, another
    individual shall properly attach the pneumatic nozzle to the tailpipe. The
    nozzle must be attached as the apparatus is placed into the stall.
    Attaching the nozzle and hose after the apparatus is in place is not
    acceptable and defeats the purpose of the system.

    Safety should be practiced while the vehicle proceeds into the stall.
    Attaching of the nozzle while the apparatus is in motion is not
    recommended. The stopping of the vehicle to couple the nozzle is
    recommended to reduce the potential of injury to the person attaching the
    nozzle.

    SAFETY NOTICE!

    Stop all vehicles before attaching the pneumatic nozzle to the exhaust
    pipe! Attaching the nozzle to a moving vehicle is dangerous. If the vehicle
    fails to stop upon entering the building, do not attempt to attach the
    nozzle. Wait until the vehicle stops completely!
    City of Asbury Park Fire Department
    Standard Operating Guideline
    Title: Diesel Fume Extraction System
    SOG – Diesel Fume Extraction System
    Revision: NEW
    While leaving the facility, the apparatus should exit normally. The nozzle is
    designed to release from the vehicle without any obstruction.

    Unless access to a particular compartment is needed, system hoses
    should be attached at all times while the vehicle is in quarters. The Company
    Officer is responsible for compliance with this directive.

    The extraction system has several sensitive electronic components. At no
    time should anyone attempt to adjust any of the devices that are part of
    the system. This would include the hose, pneumatic nozzle, air supply
    lines and all electrical devices.

    Questions concerning the system should be directed to the Battalion Chief
    assigned to facility management. If the problem is with the apparatus, the
    city maintenance facility should be contacted.

    Employee Training Notice

    All employees are instructed to view the manufacturers training videotape.
    The video can be found in the Department’s Master Resource Library.
    DKK
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    "Above all, an assignment to a truck company should be considered a promotion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckSkipper View Post
    Attaching the nozzle and hose after the apparatus is in place is not
    acceptable and defeats the purpose of the system.



    SAFETY NOTICE!

    Stop all vehicles before attaching the pneumatic nozzle to the exhaust
    pipe! Attaching the nozzle to a moving vehicle is dangerous. If the vehicle
    fails to stop upon entering the building, do not attempt to attach the
    nozzle. Wait until the vehicle stops completely!
    You'll get more harmful exhaust fumes sitting in traffic or jogging on Main Street, than you do from a properly maintained heated diesel motor. This is why we skip connecting the truck to the pipe until the truck comes to its final resting position. And the second part of the above SOP explains why we find this is a worthy alternative.

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    Interesting, we never stop to attach the hose. Simply stick it on as the truck backs in.
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    Thanks for the information guys.

    We are trying to be proactive on this because we got the Mayor onboard to get the systems. The former Chief stated that we would not use them. We are trying to make sure our guys use them.

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