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    So WSIFire thinks I'm on a "fishing" expedition to get his e-mail address and that I'm from corporate. That couldn't be any further from the truth.
    http://wsi-fire-exposed.blogspot.com/


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    Okay so I was wrong. Nice blog. Still not looking to make contact. Nothing personal.

    Still not changing my mind on the Bucks County paper mill either. You may be the stuff, the sh*t, the bomb, the man, the real deal, etc. I'm simply (as I already said) speaking from personal experience (plus conversations with a few others who worked with BCC's) on what I found.

    And for whoever said I'm a "6-20" you are wrong. If you clowns noticed I haven't done any bragging or claimed I was God's gift to the fire service. I know what I'm doing and can hold my own. I don't know it all and haven't seen it all, nor will I ever claim to.

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    Default Oh...OK.

    So, it's just arrogance then? Nooo...no bragging but plenty of condescension. Listen, I have nothing against you and I also appreciate the info that you've posted; but to state that guys with Buck's Co. Certs aren't worth a damn....that's just plain ignorant. All of these guys on this forum are just trying to do what they can to, in some way, better their own situation. They have to jump through the hoops to make it into this circus, ya' know? So, as pappy always said: "If you ain't got nothing nice to say....don't say nothing!" So, be nice! K'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTFLAMES View Post
    So, it's just arrogance then? Nooo...no bragging but plenty of condescension. Listen, I have nothing against you and I also appreciate the info that you've posted; but to state that guys with Buck's Co. Certs aren't worth a damn....that's just plain ignorant. All of these guys on this forum are just trying to do what they can to, in some way, better their own situation. They have to jump through the hoops to make it into this circus, ya' know? So, as pappy always said: "If you ain't got nothing nice to say....don't say nothing!" So, be nice! K'?
    What I said, Mr. Nice, is that those I met in country who had gotten their paper from Bucks County weren't worth a damn, and from conversatoins with others they'd seen the same thing. Got it, or do I need to be more condescending?

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    Default Enlightening

    Thanks for the "scoop" WSI. Your scenario is not too far from what I expected, maybe a little (or a lot) more ineptitude than I hoped, but still disappointing. Before I read your post my plan was to keep my mouth shut, do what I'm told, and keep a positive attitude. You have reaffirmed those plans, starting now. None the less, I'm still excited about going and view this as an opportunity. My age has tempered my expectations but not my optimism.

    Sorry if I missed the obvious in the earlier posts but is there a worst and best base to be assigned, or does it just depend on who's in charge? Also, can I expect to be able to handle some of my financial affairs on the internet, securely? I have someone here (trustworthy and competent) that will take care of the bulk of it, but I still need some access. I know it's OK but is bringing a laptop a good idea? Lastly, if you only carry in 2 changes of civilian clothes (as our list suggests), doesn't it limit your wardrode on your furlough, assuming you don't return to the states. Thanks again, and I hope you don't mind if I pick your brain if I think of something else, which I'm sure I will.

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    Default Mr. Nice here

    Oh. I stand corrected. One question: Have you met many "Bucks County Commandos" in this country? Cause, it kinda sounds like you're lumping them all together based on limited exposure and hearsay. Hey, I GOT IT....but could you BE more condescending? Ok...whatever. Why don't you pull out the panty wad and we'll move on, eh?



    Man, these cracker jax are GOOoood!

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    Talking AAA Hoser /Gotflames/WSIFIRE and All Bucks and More

    Hoser, I saw your post and realized its my turn to ask a question. Can you send me the list your guys are receiving now? I haven't seen that new updated list. But serious about the change of clothes. Take some at least for Houston to go out in. You will need to go have a beer or a coke at bar or a place with the group. You can mail those extras back home so you don't have to carry them to Iraqi-ville. You can mail those via the UPS store next to the HOtel near or across the processing center before you fly out.
    Kris down in Houston is very good to you guys and will give you the answers to questions like where is the UPS store and what is a good time to get there to mail clothes back to the house.

    LAPTOPS Page 15 of this thread covers laptops and will continue for about the next 132 pages there after. I'm not joking. BUT beware, I bought a nice Sony for the second contract and couldn't do updates on it and then the Laptop locked up on me. In Thailand i had to access the internet to unlock my PC. So if you buy a new laptop to take over do all your updates and get the software loaded you need cause you can't access the internet with your laptop using KBR or Govt lines at all.
    Hower don't worry you will have access to your Money accounts, email accounts via KBR leased laptops to WSI or through the MWRs. Hoser please use this information i give you as a trade for the list please. firekeith1221@yahoo.com
    Thanx.

    Now onto other topics, Hey Gotflames in your post you metioned Commando and panties. I can't resist but mentioning commandos and Panties aren't those off setting since the commando can mean no undies? HMMM something to think about. Of course i'm only joking not picking on.
    But serious, please no fighting guys. We can discuss all sides but lets do this in a laid back manner. Its so hard to restart a thread since all the info that is valuable gets lost and the questions (although repeated) are lacking the info accumulated over time.
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    Hey GodFather !

    Was speaking to a buddy who was friends with buttknuckle the other day and would you believe he is on year 3 ! LOL Remember him in the forums?
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    Default Bfdnjff

    Hey i do remember him and his posts I have been rereading this thread and surprised how so many thought he was a new poster on this when he was deemed obnoxious. However he was only sharing his views from the day he applied till .............................. ...well the end of the thread. Just so many different experiences people had good and bad but some took his posts too personal.
    3rd year ha? WOW impressive. Regardless of anyones experiences,views or status, the place takes a toll on a person.
    Not in a negative way all the time but for me not seeing family is TOUGH and it was hard not seeing my dad for such a long time.

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    Default To Fireskeith

    You're right. Sorry to you and the others but I felt alittle offended and now it's out of my system. No more. To WSIfire: you are entitled to your opinions (and they could very well be justified in your experience) however, don't write things that might make it harder on us potential new guys. Guys that aren't worth their weight are usually found out pretty quickly. Like Firefly, I didn't want any of the guys over there thinking I (or anyone else) was no good simply because I had to jump through this particular hoop. And, I meant it when I said thank you for the info posted, you certainly know WAY more about working for WSI in Iraq than I do. OK?

    Thanx, Fireskeith, for reminding ME to be nice.

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    Default Thanks!

    WSIFIRE thanks for the dose of reality. I have a good friend going to Iraq at the end of September. 26 years as a fire captain......wants to increase is nest egg. Good Man, Hard worker knows what he wants and his $hit. I hope the morons that wear the gold and (push the pencils) will give him the opportunity to improve the situation at camp.

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    Default Officer "True"

    So what's up with the blog? Clicked on the link and got zip. Page not found. You delete it? You seemed so proud of it, why would you delete it?

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    Default Go For It!

    To anyone thinking of going to Iraq as a contract Firefighter, I say give it a shot. Yes the extraneous bull that crops up is rediculous. The experience to work with all the guys and gals from around the country is rewarding. You get to find out that alot of them are just like the guys you worked with back home just different accents. I think if you go into this with the understanding that most of the leadership are competent to one degree or another. Remember the chiefs and officers are all there with many of the same reasons you are. They are interested in improving their families situation at home. Or if they're single they may have chosen this as an adventurous career. They can only do so much for your well being and your progression through the ranks. My experience was for the most part was a positive one.The crews I worked with were comfortable to be with and that is important as you will spend agreat deal of your time with your Engine company. Oh and when one guy wants to go to the exchange to buy one bag of M&Ms, don't **** and moan as you will have your own quirks that everyone will have to put up with. I personally looked forward to any correspondence coming from headquarters as it always was a topic for discussion and boredom must be kept at arms length. Be smart with your money and life changing benchmarks can occur. Peace Out!!!!!!!!

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    Default we all understand

    Quote Originally Posted by h20squirter View Post
    i want to make babies with you. you are my hero.
    It is ok, realy, we all understand you were lonely while over seas..LMAO..lol

    Eitherway glad you all made it back safe
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    Default Speaking of Money...

    What kind of money are we talking here? Last year I talked with a guy who came home before completing his year because his wife became ill. He said that he was waiting for overtime that he never received. Is there a problem collecting money from WSI? I was offered a position last year but declined it because I wasn't allowed a leave of absence and wasn't willing to give up my career position. I'm reconsidering that now. What do you mean when you talk about B.S.? Is it lack of equipment? Leadership? Bureaucracy? Can you give specifics without risking your anonomity?

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    Default IN the Process

    I have just done my intervew last week. Waiting on all the Medical Stuff, Anyone have any advice. Ship out date of Oct 14th

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    "Is there a problem collecting money from WSI?"

    Among all the negative that can fairly be said about this company, job, place, etc, one thing I can NOT bit#h about is getting paid. It's always on time, and not been messed up once.

    There are plenty of folks who'd say we don't get paid for all the time WSI gets paid for us, etc etc etc, and they may very well be right. I'm not sure how all that works. I'm not gonna read the bloody LOGCAP contract to find out. Bottom line is I'll have made more in two years here when I leave than I'd have made in probably 8 back home.

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    Default Bump

    Keepin' the unvarnished truth near the top.

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    Thanks zapper.

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    Default Contract firefighting pay

    Actually the pay for WSI is not that great. Depending on country and company, average for qualified firefighter/instructor averages about $650 to $900 day including travel days. Most are rotational 4x4, 6x3, once again dependent on countries. Its best to stay away from getting hired direct out of the states, sad to say but American companies have got a pretty bad reputation in the expat community for low pay and poor working conditions. European and Asia based companies far ahead as far as looking after employees. Its best to contract headhunter/ recruiters on the net and get job listings
    Average days per year runs about 200 and up, flights are return to your home airport, but you usually can make arrangements to travel elsewhere as long as it isn't more than your flight cost home.
    I've been at this 12 years now and never been out of work



    Quote Originally Posted by WSIFire View Post
    NO I wouldn't go back again. I accomplished my financial goals. I'm used to some bull$hit and there will always be some in any department, but WSI exceeds the total bull$hit output of any 10000 fire departments in the states. It's worth it for a year, but I don't need money bad enough to go back.

    I can't speak about the contract world, but there HAVE to be better companies. If WSI is the best, God help us all. I can't see any other contract paying as well though, except whatever KBR has in Iraq and whoever has Afghanistan (I think it's KBR).

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