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    Quote Originally Posted by jacklrd View Post
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    HELL NO
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    I typed that first, and then did a quick size up and risk vs gain analysis and decided to go defensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slfd07 View Post
    i was just wondering i was not trying to start anything i was just wondering if anyone can use sirens i have read forums about explorers/jrs. using lights. AND I DO THINK EXPLORERS SHOULD RESPOND TO CALLS!!!!!!!!!!
    Do you have FF1/EVOC? Do you know what "due regard" means? How about "negligence"? Do you even have a drivers liscense? If you answered no to any of the above questions, then you shouldn't be responding to calls and ESPECIALLY NOT driving with lights and siren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slfd07 View Post
    i was just wondering i was not trying to start anything i was just wondering if anyone can use sirens i have read forums about explorers/jrs. using lights. AND I DO THINK EXPLORERS SHOULD RESPOND TO CALLS!!!!!!!!!!
    We're not debating the fact of whether Juniors should respond to calls. We're debating the fact of whether they should be able to respond with sirens in their vehicles. As a previous person said HELLLLLLLLLLLLL NO. This is dangerous and just asking for trouble.I know a lot of regular FF's that should not be able to even have a light, so there's no way a Junior should. If any dept let's their Juniors respond in POV with lights and sirens they should be hung.
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    Just to update my position on this matter.....................


    I woudl like to again second the motions of all posters since my last post.
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    OK BUt Shood EXPLORERS or Jr'S Be Allowed To Have blooo Lites two?? OMG OMG OMG!!!
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    OK BUt Shood EXPLORERS or Jr'S Be Allowed To Have blooo Lites two?? OMG OMG OMG!!!
    This shouldn't even be a question that we see on here. And for those departments that allow this SHAME on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    OK BUt Shood EXPLORERS or Jr'S Be Allowed To Have blooo Lites two?? OMG OMG OMG!!!
    LOL. That was funny


    I think this went completely over dday05's head. Ah well.
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    Guys, seriously, I don't get what your problem is. I mean, there is nothing wrong with having a siren in your car. I mean it's uber cool, and it would make you the most amazingest kid in school. And as for blue lights, red are much cooler. I want red lights and sirens. I'll talk to my chief about that one. [/sarcasm]

    In all seriousness now (this time for real) if you honestly think you need a siren, you shouldn't be allowed to drive to calls period. If you want to have a siren to get people out of your way (let alone a blue light) I can't imagine how you are when you're going to a call. You're probably driving like a lunatic without the sirns or lights, which is an even bigger problem. Srens don't give POVs the rights to drive above the law. Therefore sirens aren't needed. Blue lights are a little better to give people a notice that you're not out for a Sunday stroll, but actually responding to some sort of emergency.

    You're responding to the station, just like 10 other guys are. There's no need to cause an accident because you wanted to get to the burnt toast 40 seconds sooner. The only people who need sirens are the chiefs. They need to get to the scene to direct crews in and tell them where to stage and where hydrants are, etc. But even the chiefs don't need to use sirens going to a fire alarm that's confirmed burnt toast. Time and place for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st42stephenAFT View Post
    Guys, seriously, I don't get what your problem is. I mean, there is nothing wrong with having a siren in your car. I mean it's uber cool, and it would make you the most amazingest kid in school. And as for blue lights, red are much cooler. I want red lights and sirens. I'll talk to my chief about that one. [/sarcasm]
    That is what it's all about isn't it. Being the uber cool kid at school and rollin the downtown in your chevette pickin up chicks with your lights and sirens???


    Quote Originally Posted by st42stephenAFT
    You're responding to the station, just like 10 other guys are. There's no need to cause an accident because you wanted to get to the burnt toast 40 seconds sooner. The only people who need sirens are the chiefs. They need to get to the scene to direct crews in and tell them where to stage and where hydrants are, etc. But even the chiefs don't need to use sirens going to a fire alarm that's confirmed burnt toast. Time and place for everything.
    Well said man. I know my province only allows Chiefs and DC's to have a light and siren in their vehicle. Half of the Chiefs I know(except for a select few "special" ones) don't even use them except on MVC's and Structure Fires. I would put money on the fact I would make it to the hall equally as quick and efficient in my vehicle with no lights, as Joseph the Junior with the amazing technicolor dreamcar.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    LOL. That was funny


    I think this went completely over dday05's head. Ah well.
    No this didn't go over my head and that wasn't directed to nmfire s comment. Yes that is funny but we have a dept in our area of which this BS does happen. This idiot runs down a state route like a *^%$##@#@$%^#@ and the day this yoyo crashes his vehicle will be the end of that dept. Running hot for a g-damned medical when you're not even a EMT. WTF??

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday05 View Post
    No this didn't go over my head and that wasn't directed to nmfire s comment. Yes that is funny but we have a dept in our area of which this BS does happen. This idiot runs down a state route like a *^%$##@#@$%^#@ and the day this yoyo crashes his vehicle will be the end of that dept. Running hot for a g-damned medical when you're not even a EMT. WTF??

    Well if you were not directing the comment towards nmfire's comment why would you quote him??

    I agree that the dept in your area is completely f**ked for allowing that too happen.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    The comment was not directed towards him , but it is a question that people keep asking and asking. Yes I did ruin his "humor" but as I stated when we have people doing it around here it's something I take a bit personal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dday05 View Post
    The comment was not directed towards him , but it is a question that people keep asking and asking. Yes I did ruin his "humor" but as I stated when we have people doing it around here it's something I take a bit personal.
    Thats good your taking it personal. If someone is letting Juniors use lights and sirens in their POV then should be removed from a posistion of power ASAP.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    Thats good your taking it personal. If someone is letting Juniors use lights and sirens in their POV then should be removed from a posistion of power ASAP.
    Agreed. Sometimes the truth hurts, grab a tissue and wipe away the tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    Thats good your taking it personal. If someone is letting Juniors use lights and sirens in their POV then should be removed from a posistion of power ASAP.
    I couldn't agree with this more.
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    **The knowledge given within these forums is my own personal insight and information and does not and should not necessarily reflect any organizations that I am associated with**

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    Quote Originally Posted by slfd07 View Post
    **The knowledge given within these forums is my own personal insight and information and does not and should not necessarily reflect any organizations that I am associated with**
    What knowledge????

    Other than the fact you think Juniors should be able to have sirens as well as being able to leave school for calls so you do not have to take "3 or 4 company's out of service"
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    Quote Originally Posted by slfd07 View Post
    **The knowledge given within these forums is my own personal insight and information and does not and should not necessarily reflect any organizations that I am associated with**
    What knowledge? You've presented yourself to us as a damn fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slfd07 View Post
    **The knowledge given within these forums is my own personal insight and information and does not and should not necessarily reflect any organizations that I am associated with**
    This is farse. That implies you have some knowledge, insight, and information worth anyone listening to. What it should say is this....

    ** I'm a little kid who thinks he knows everything and I run my mouth a lot. Nobody pay attention to me and maybe I'll go away. **

    Last edited by nmfire; 07-25-2007 at 01:16 PM.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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